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    "NWA was horrible but Delta is now just as bad ... The numbers change often and always overnight "

    Not true. They can change in an hour or midday--often it's from downsizing 64's to those damned 50 seaters. Revs have to go on some flight. Just think this way--how many MORE employees are combined to fly fewer flights than both airlines had? DL uses NW policy for extended family and same sex partners and live-ins on NRSA now--BIG increase.
    I like your motto--makes sense to me! Seat counts don't always show the unassigned seats. Yep, nonrev is a crapshoot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Funkywabit View Post
    NWA was horrible but Delta is now just as bad ... The numbers change often and always overnight ... I call this seat bingo .. I have seen 50 seats disappear with no cancelled flights or easy to explain reasons (of course that I know of ... im sure there is plenty that I dont) On the other hand, I have seen 10 seat appear out of nowhere. Thats why my motto is if you dont try, you dont fly!

    The thing I miss about NWA is that the list numbers usually held up even as much as a week out. At DL, nonrevs are listing very last minute. I was listed on the Pisa flight last year and was #2 on the list 24 hours out. Then, with 6 hours left, I was now at 22.
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    That happened to me w/ the first SYD-LAX flight a few years ago. I thought I'd beat the crowd and get to SYD before hand and then ride the inaugural SYD-LAX. I flew ATL-ICN and was awaiting KE ICN-SYD when I decided to take another look at the SYD-LAX list.......I had gone from #3 w/ 15 seats to #20.

    I ran back over to the DL gate and hopped right back on the airplane ICN-ATL.
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    Your forgetting most flights are payload optimized especially on international flights even though the load center doesn't communicate it accordingly. I will call LCC and they will tell me we have a pallet of mangos on a FQA that we didn't load it yesterday at 8000lbs so free up 12 seats. Cargo pays the bills.

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    Cargo--oh yeah!! Great point.
    My issue was regarding how many MORE nonrevs we have now since DL took over NW and instituted several or their policies. Extended families added so many more NRs--put in the unmarried live-ins and same sex partners...limiting flights to some destinations [seasonally] makes people list very last minute. I hate that, too!!
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    Agreed Mrs 767er. Still no complaints here with post merger option routing. Plus Skyteam partners being added monthly creates visibility. I rarely Get STUCK (sleepinginairports.com). lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Funkywabit View Post
    NWA was horrible but Delta is now just as bad ... The numbers change often and always overnight ... I call this seat bingo .. I have seen 50 seats disappear with no cancelled flights or easy to explain reasons (of course that I know of ... im sure there is plenty that I dont) On the other hand, I have seen 10 seat appear out of nowhere. Thats why my motto is if you dont try, you dont fly!

    INDEEED! If you want to go, just show up!

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    8000Lbs on an FQA?? Sounds like a blown position limit. Better bump that pallet and throw some nonrevs on!
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    BTW, One time I carried 30K Lbs of smelly fish for 8 hours, dropped the pallets and quick turned, ferried the airplane for an hour into a teeny little outstation and bulk loaded the whole belly......the smelly fish belly.......not many happy rampers that day!
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    Quote Originally Posted by vulindlela View Post
    The thing I miss about NWA is that the list numbers usually held up even as much as a week out. At DL, nonrevs are listing very last minute. I was listed on the Pisa flight last year and was #2 on the list 24 hours out. Then, with 6 hours left, I was now at 22.
    That just happened to me coming out of LAS. I started at 12 on the list 3 hrs prior, and by departure I was 37. Fricking sucks.......

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