Thread: Pre-Check

There are so many stupid people in those lanes. The signs tell you what to take out or not. I see people w/bins of all their crap and I tell them it isn't necessary and they respond, "just trying to be efficient". I've replied, "you aren't helping by doing that!". Then I go around them. Maybe they'll get it eventually? Maybe not...

I've been more concerned about the combination of belt and shoes setting off the metal detector even when flying out of Europe or someplace that doesn't require shoes to be removed. Could be that others have a similar fear.

They don't have precheck in EU. I've been flying from EU for 13 yrs multiple times/yr and might have taken off my shoes maybe 5-6 times. If they have a "similar fear", they should go thru the regular lanes. If they don't know what the rules are, don't use PC.

Right, I know that they don't have precheck in EU, and I agree that they should go with the flow a bit more. But what I'm saying is that when I didn't have to take my shoes off, I had a fear of it causing a problem. Their "trying to be efficient" could mean "I'm afraid that my shoes will set off the alarm, so it'll be less of a holdup if I just do it now" - not that I agree with that logic, just a potential line of thinking.

If that's your way of thinking, then let everyone else go in front of you, while you remove your belt and shoes, even if not requested by security. I have no problem with that, but don't impede others' access to the scanner while you decide "does it stay or does it go now?"...

What gets me the most is the uneducated people who having entered the PC line get to the point of placing the carry-on baggage
on the conveyor belt and then begin to disrobe of the items that were formerly checked; laptops out and open; change keys in tray;
belts off; shoes off and other electronics and devices out on display. Then realizing that was not the correct procedure for the PC
line hold up everything getting things back to where they should have been. Now in the mean time someone has elected to go
around this roadblock and the conveyor TSA has a question on whose item that is that needs to be scanned further because of
who knows what. Thus the savvy traveler is held up because his carry-on is stuck behind that subject needing further attention
until ownership is established and the log jam cleared.
Some airports have the luxury of a secondary check point to weed out questionable travelers and carry-on baggage speeding the
primary security lane.
Really how do you get into the GE or PC lane without knowing the drill ?
And should not all badged Airline employees and retirees with photo ID be automatically permitted to use the PC lane since they
know the drill or at least the rudimentary function.
Random selection of passengers is not the best idea for the PC lane.
What is - is picking out the savvy passengers that are a quick study for using the PC lane i.e. Frequent Flyers who are not already
on the GE or PC list !

Ive just been using the employee lines at airports, never had a problem

The last I checked the employee TSA check point at MSP was for active uniformed employees and crew members going on duty.
I did however pass one time but was advised that the lane was for active on duty employees - but strangely they let me pass.
Dress code has its privileges perhaps they thought I was a management person - no uniform required !
The traffic thru this check point is miniscule and really how dumb to not utilize it more to speed everything for everyone.
There is no reason at all for employees and retirees to purchase a GE or PC status when their history and profile is all ready on file !