Thread: Inquiring minds want to know

I recently filled out some online survey, seems like they want to tap into a 60,000,000 per year nonrev travel deficit they claim to spend by possibly charging a 50 dollar fee per year, or recuping some of that by charging fees for economy or vacation passes ect.....you see where the bean counters are going with that. So I flled out a survey stating my claim whatever that does. So for now, it seems like a touchy feely kind of thing, to gain some possible ideas but it all seems to boil down to bringing that 60 million nonrev fee down. They asked questions such as should supervisors travel ahead of frontline employees no matter the seniority, or spouse travel, or retiree travel.....I'm sure they are looking to shake the can a little, but nothing official yet.

I think the $50 1x year is fair. How many employees? 60,000?

"I was also a bit upset that when the annual enrollment fee was mentioned, they said that Delta charges $50/year as an example. Conveniently, they forgot to say that Delta does not charge a fee to sit in F.

I'd be really interested in seeing the raw data as well as what the results will be. Hopefully it's not too bad. "

Yes, when I made the transition to DL from US I was amazed how well they take care of emp pass travels. Upgrade everything. Even my folks got food vouchers and hotel on DTW flight. And when I commuted via CO in IAH they were the same but they requested Biz casual.

Originally Posted by ddagencylv

I think the $50 1x year is fair. How many employees? 60,000?

Sorry, I take that back. More like 25 bucks per year to use the nonrev travel services. No, I don't think that shake down is fair. Why change the game now? It's a shake down. It's not the principal of the money, but where do you draw the line? To save money on nonrev travel? I'd like at least an explanation as to how an empty seat filled by a nonrev traveller loses money? They quit serving food on a plane and charge for snack boxes. Why not include the money in the fare and serve meals like before? Because they jack up the ticket anyway and then sell the meals on top of that. It's never enough for the bean counters. Non rev travel is part of the fringe benefits we get for working for the airlines. Why shake us down? No. I don't like it. (I know Delta charges 25 per year service fee or so the survey said when was filling it out). In this merger, we lost our 10 year free space travel now its jacked up to 25 years. Don't get me wrong, there are more great things I like in this merger, its been way more profitable, and it's shown in my bottom line too, but DON'T SHAKE ME DOWN over nonrev travel.

Originally Posted by spongebue

Yeah, we're all expecting *something* to happen sometime soon. They don't say that the program costs $60mil (which has left a lot of people scratching their heads as to how) and ask how we'd prefer to have changes done for nothing.

As a clarification, the survey mostly had questions like "how often do you fly as a pass rider?" "how would you feel if we _______?" "place these 6 options that would make us more money in the order you prefer" and things like that. Some questions I could understand, like asking if we would prefer to go by time of checkin instead of seniority (I'm sure because that's what AA does, but that wasn't mentioned specifically) but some were really insulting ("should vacation passes be given only to commuters?" or "Should management be given priority over non-management employees" (ditto supervisors). I was also a bit upset that when the annual enrollment fee was mentioned, they said that Delta charges $50/year as an example. Conveniently, they forgot to say that Delta does not charge a fee to sit in F.

I'd be really interested in seeing the raw data as well as what the results will be. Hopefully it's not too bad.

If they go by way of check in instead of seniority it would highly piss me off. That's just wrong. I think someone once mentioned that someone conveniently working near the gates whereas someone having to come from home or a hanger would get bypassed by that pencil pushing geek at the gate with no seniority. Create a cluster FK at the counter. You going to play that game, lets go with rotating shifts and everything else based on seniority. (I thought it was 25 dollars Delta pays not 50 per year for service fee.)

Originally Posted by mrs767er

That $50 fee can potentially give our us and dependents unlimited overseas travel in J. Yield fare for non-deps (and buddie) can also get space available in J! All for $50 + their fares/taxes. I ask our buddies to pay the fee--never an issue on this end. We are extremely grateful for a seniority-based system and I think it's well-deserved. This check-in nonsense is just that...

Well spoken ...Although my UIO route just went up $1.00 RT ($57.77) for 2014..Awww lol