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    Quote Originally Posted by mrs767er View Post
    Look @ Ibis AMS. Also airbnb or Homeaway if you have a few days. Just email Ibis.
    Thanks, I'll check IBIS out.


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    Your kids do not give you access to their DLnet? I have my parents access it so they can list and go when they want to. They also help me if I am somewhere without internet access and need flights changed.
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    To access the DeltaNet and TravelNet all that is needed is the 9 digit employee number (retirees keep the same number as they were when active) AND the password.
    A little coaching in how to go about using the system and you can make a go it.
    Easier if your job function is/was passenger/customer service.
    That can take care of the basics of listing and checking space availability.

    The only other thing to help with getting a better picture of seat availability is knowing how to do a dummy booking at Delta.com to see the seats available (or not)
    on a specific flight.

    In a bind there is the fall back method using Delta's Travel Line the 800 number 1-800-325-7123
    What you will need to use this method is the employee's 9 digit employee number and the seniority date mm/dd/yy then use the voice automated prompts.
    It is slow cumbersome but it works when computer access is not conveniently available !
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    Quote Originally Posted by offroader View Post
    Your kids do not give you access to their DLnet? ...
    That would be against he rules and we wouldn't want to get them in trouble.

    Quote Originally Posted by R.M.Anderson View Post
    To access the DeltaNet and TravelNet all that is needed is the 9 digit employee number (retirees keep the same number as they were when active) AND the password.
    Quote Originally Posted by R.M.Anderson View Post
    A little coaching in how to go about using the system and you can make a go it.
    Easier if your job function is/was passenger/customer service.
    That can take care of the basics of listing and checking space availability.

    The only other thing to help with getting a better picture of seat availability is knowing how to do a dummy booking at Delta.com to see the seats available (or not)
    on a specific flight.

    In a bind there is the fall back method using Delta's Travel Line the 800 number 1-800-325-7123
    What you will need to use this method is the employee's 9 digit employee number and the seniority date mm/dd/yy then use the voice automated prompts.
    It is slow cumbersome but it works when computer access is not conveniently available !


    Interestingly, we don't really need Travel Net until the morning of our flight. All of our nonrev is TATL and we really just care about getting across the pond. Once we're on the other side, there are many, many options we have to get to our final destination. I've actually sat with them and taught them a a few things.

    We know where we're nonreving from, JFK if we're up north, DTW, MSP, ATL, JFK, and BOS in that order if we're in MSY. I have a database that has every TATL flight from each departure point along with the Aircraft type and number of Business Class seats. What gets added on the morning of the day of departure are the available and available to sell for both classes, and a number representing where we would stand on the Standby list for each flight. A simple calculation makes it very clear what the priority order is for each "block" of flights. A block represents a time window where we can only list for one flight if we haven't made it to an earlier flight. For JFK flights, we eliminate all Terminal 2 departures since you can't run back and forth from T4 to T2.

    The first TATL flight of the day at JFK is 446 JFK-AMS and it's the only flight in it's time block (we've don't consider ATH). It's a great flight for us since it usually has availability and it arrives in AMS early in the morning which give us lots of options to go other places. If we don't get on, we list and check in for the next one. I might add the the GA's are very good to us and they'll let us know if we're not going to make it on in Business Class as soon as they know so that we can move on to our next choice. We also try to fly on Sat, Tues, and Wed, which seem to be the best days. Returning, we go to AMS or LHR and again, just care about getting across the Atlantic. That means we have JFK, BOS, DTW, MSP and ATL options.

    We're also realistic. We went to Stockholm last month and knew we'd never nonrev successfully so we bought coach tickets (FCFL). My wife upgraded for the trip over and we got Operational Upgrades on the return - let's hear a big cheer for oversold Main Cabin.
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    Did you find a close-by hotel?

    I was going to take my kids and jump on my husband's flight to AMS. Plenty of open seats but I couldn't find anywhere to stay. No openings at the crew hotel and nothing close, aside from the fact that nobody wanted more than one child in a room.

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    Check homeaway and similar sites that has places near where the bus drops in town. Crew hotel is not great location; only advantage is shuttle bus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ustasmom View Post
    Did you find a close-by hotel?

    I was going to take my kids and jump on my husband's flight to AMS. Plenty of open seats but I couldn't find anywhere to stay. No openings at the crew hotel and nothing close, aside from the fact that nobody wanted more than one child in a room.
    How many kids are you taking and what is the budget?
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    Default Question from a newbie. What are TATL and FCFL?

    Quote Originally Posted by msynyc View Post
    That would be against he rules and we wouldn't want to get them in trouble.



    Interestingly, we don't really need Travel Net until the morning of our flight. All of our nonrev is TATL and we really just care about getting across the pond. Once we're on the
    We know where we're nonreving from, JFK if we're up north, DTW, MSP, ATL, JFK, and BOS in that order if we're in MSY. I have a database that has every TATL flight from each departure point along with the Aircraft type and number of Business Class seats. What gets added on the morning of the day of departure are the available and available to sell for both classes, and a number representing where we would stand on the Standby list for each flight. A simple calculation makes it very clear what the priority order is for each "block" of flights. A block represents a time window where we can only list for one flight if we haven't made it to an earlier flight. For JFK flights, we eliminate all Terminal 2 departures since you can't run back and forth from T4 to T2.

    The first TATL flight of the day at JFK is 446 JFK-AMS and it's the only flight in it's time block (we've don't consider ATH). It's a great flight for us since it usually has availability and it arrives in AMS early in the morning which give us lots of options to go other places. If we don't get on, we list and check in for the next one. I might add the the GA's are very good to us and they'll let us know if we're not going to make it on in Business Class as soon as they know so that we can move on to our next choice. We also try to fly on Sat, Tues, and Wed, which seem to be the best days. Returning, we go to AMS or LHR and again, just care about getting across the Atlantic. That means we have JFK, BOS, DTW, MSP and ATL options.

    We're also realistic. We went to Stockholm last month and knew we'd never nonrev successfully so we bought coach tickets (FCFL). My wife upgraded for the trip over and we got Operational Upgrades on the return - let's hear a big cheer for oversold Main Cabin.

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    Welcome aboard Carolyn, there’s a seat for you right down front on the aisle.
    TATL = Transatlantic
    FCFL = Not sure about the abbreviation, but the term refers to a confirmed discounted ticket.


    Quote Originally Posted by msynyc View Post
    "...... All of our nonrev is TATL and we really just care about getting across the pond."
    "I have a database that has every TATL flight from each departure point along with the Aircraft type and number of Business Class seats."

    We're also realistic. We went to Stockholm last month and knew we'd never nonrev successfully so we bought coach tickets (FCFL). My wife upgraded for the trip over and we got Operational Upgrades on the return - let's hear a big cheer for oversold Main Cabin.

    And it all becomes clear
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    How did you accumulate your database? We are planning to do frequent TATL travel. How do you handle hotel reservations? Do you make advance reservations or do it when you get there. We are parents and will be listed as SB3. DTW is our home airport. We have been around in Europe and know how easy it is to get from city to city so , , like you, we will go on any flight to almost anywhere to get across the pond
    We want to travel as much as we can for as long as we can. Life is short and it's a big world
    As always, Carolyn

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