IAD or FRA to JNB...which is less crowded?

Hello,
does anyone have any experience travelling nonrev with SA either FRA-JNB or IAD-JNB in the September October period?

I have heard that most flights to South Africa are quite full from Europe and probably have better chances going through the US. I will be leaving from Canada.

Or perhaps someone knows of an airline with lots of empty seat on one of those routes http://www.nonrev.net/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Thanks

Welcome crazypilot... comforting name. LOL http://www.nonrev.net/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

DL flies to Johannesburg out of Atlanta. I don't know about the loads though. Someone else might can chime in about that.

Thanks Chris,
I didn't know about that flight. Thats one more possible route added to my list! (up to 6 now) Just need to figure out the one with the least amount of pax traffic.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by crazypilot71:
Thanks Chris,
I didn't know about that flight. Thats one more possible route added to my list! (up to 6 now) Just need to figure out the one with the least amount of pax traffic. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

OK crazy--here's the scoop on our recent trip DL ATL/JNB this June/July-- It's via DKR (Senegal--better have yellow fever cert if you get "removed" and have to overnight--they might ck) and it's a beast. 9+hrs per leg + ground security time 2-3 hrs--we got biz both ways, BUT low seniority employee parent was yanked halfway back to ATL. He had good knowledge and experince there, so he was ok--but NR's can be stuck for days. Fees are high ($80 just for DKR to add to fare for airport infrastructure--they NEED it!!))
The flights were packed and that was off-season somewhat since it was their winter. Service was excellent tho!!
Hope that helps.