It looks like the driver's license (State level) and passport (Federal level) is the most widely accepted forms of pictured ID card around. Does anyone here know if an airport badge holds any water when showing proof of identification?
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It looks like the driver's license (State level) and passport (Federal level) is the most widely accepted forms of pictured ID card around. Does anyone here know if an airport badge holds any water when showing proof of identification?
I always use my badge to get through security. I've only ever been questioned once and that was in a very small airport where the person at TSA had never heard of Alaska Airlines.
Airport badge should always be accepted, as it's issued by the airport authority, which is a government agency. There is some debate about airline issued badges though. Absolutely any unexpired government issued photo ID should be accepted every time.............that being said, we've all dealt with the geniuses who have no clue about the rules they're paid to enforce...
I almost always use my badge to get through. I have had 2 times where they wanted a government issued ID instead for one bullspit reason or another (not in uniform or something like that). Once in MSP, once in DEN, so not exactly tiny airports. I think both times I tried arguing with them a little ("I've always been told that this is supposed to be enough for you...") and eventually show them my license while telling them that I'd appreciate it if they would check with their supervisor when they have a chance to.
A few months ago I had training at DEN. For the first day I made (and later cancelled) a NRSA listing just to give me a boarding pass to get through, and also talked with a supervisor to get an idea of what the official policy is supposed to be. He told me that an airline badge alone (not even a boarding pass alongside) is supposed to be enough (I've given up on that one and just give them that from the start). When I told him that I've been told my airline badge was worthless at the ID check, his jaw kind of dropped. The rest of the week I went through with just a badge, but I also wasn't carrying any bags with me, either.
Still, better than when I tried using the TSA's contact form to ask the actual policy. My response given was essentially "thank you for asking why airline employees don't need to show ID..."
Don't get me started on TSA. Too late now. Here is why. They obviously don't hire based on scores and merit. Not the top pick of the crop.
But lets get back to the badge. The airport badge is not a government badge. It is issued by the CITY. It says so in the back of the card. In case you lose it, to mail it into this address. Your company badge is issued by the airlines. Again, maybe government regulated but not a government agency. But neither is your driver's license a government agency. It's a state level ID card.
I use my badge to get through security at the airport. If they want a DL, I can provide it too. Or passport if going overseas. The airport badge is a must if going through employee line. I show that one, wife shows the driver's license or passport. I bet you TSA feels so important when they travel to show their HOMELAND SECURITY ISSUED BADGES. Issued by the U.S. government. Hell, even welfare recipients get a medicaid card along with a debit card with money in their account just for having babies and staying IGNORANT.
But usually, its government issued ID's that hold the most water. Passport, military ID, merchant mariners id, DOD employees ID card, or any government agency issued ID card. Having said this, you know the pain in the butt hassle it is to replace a lost airport badge.
But a city is still a government, just not as large as a state or federal one. But I wouldn't really expect a TSA agent in Kalamazoo to know what San Francisco's badge looks like, either. At least airline badges only come in a handful of varieties, generally less than there are state licenses even.
Any ID issued by any government agency.......on any level. As long as it's issued by a government agency and has a photo and isn't expired, it's good. That's it...........of course there are just a ton of idiots keeping us safe every day that have no clue what is and isn't good.
I can't quote certain TSA issued materials, but let's just say airline ID is still up for debate. What's great is when it's a teeny tiny airline. I've had TSA tell me my badge is fake..........And then let me through with my license...........like it's no big deal or anything............these people are just my favorite. Between TSA and CBP, my risk for hemorrhoids has got to be elevated..
I know when I get a hotel room as in Sal at Intercontinental, they run a copy of your AIRLINE BADGE for your discount. Airline badge for discounts, Airport badge for security and employee line. At the KIOSK machine, they actually want your driver's license (Conus) or passport document for overseas travel. For identification purposes on travel itself, they could care less about your airport/employee badge.
Exactly. The carrier is responsible to verify you have any required documents for entry into any country they fly you to. Passport, visa, etc. The airline is responsible and they get the fine if they fly anybody that doesn't have their required documents. Of course in addition to that, an airline can request whatever they want to at check in. As for going to the gate, even if it's an Intl flight, the nice folks checking your ID should not be looking for any of that.........strictly satisfying the requirement of a government issued photo ID........
I don't think for instance that an airport ID badge would be accepted in a voting booth. Maybe along with a driver's license they would. Perhaps as secondary, only because it has a photo on it. Maybe could get by with secondary ID badge of an airline employee badge. But try taking it alone to vote with. I doubt you would have much luck.
This site shows approved identificaton for voting in TEXAS. In summary, passport, drivers license, military id cards, including retired DOD civilian cards, concealed handgun license, Veteran affairs ID card, passport card, immigration and naturalization form. Airport badge, employee ID from airline not even in the conversation.
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Originally Posted by ColoAvs19
Does not work at LAS though...
I like this argument. Why in the you know what must we hold a government ID card in higher standard than an ID card from a fortune 500 company? Is a TSA homeland security id badge more important than my airline badge? Kiss my.............
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Originally Posted by spongebue
At least the airport badge is quite informative and official looking. And it is official in nature. Lose it and you go down 150 bucks to replace it. To get that badge is more of a challenge than many other id cards I've ever had. The paper work for accessibility in the airport sterile areas is a byache. The badge even has an address so that if found, it can be dropped off in the mailbox and eventually delivered to you. Kind of like a military ID card used to have. Ironically the airline employee badge too has an address in the back. It's quite corporate looking in nature like many other employee badges have. But not official looking as the airport badge. Lose that one and you are in a heap of manure. Security and all gets involved. Other airport badges look the same but with different colors I've noticed.
I've never tried to show my ID anywhere outside of an airport. I've used it a bunch with no problems except once at a small airport where the TSA agent said my airline ID wasn't valid because it had no expiration date on it. I then tried my airport badge with an expiration because I was curious and she still said no she needs a drivers license. That's the only problem I've ever had.
Straight from the TSA website: Acceptable IDs | Transportation Security Administration
Both airline and airport ID badges are acceptable
Thanks for showing me that. I was not aware that airport badges and airline badges were TSA acceptable forms of ID. I always showed my airport ID when traveling, but just took it that it was par for the course for working in the airport anyway. Didn't know it was on record for being acceptable form of ID.
I also noticed that a weapon permit is not an acceptable form of ID for TSA. It's ok in the state of Texas to vote with a concealed handgun license, but not good enough for travel according to TSA.
So here is the question. Do we need to go with a NATIONAL ID system as other countries do? Like carry around another license that identifies you as an American citizen? Our NATIONAL ID is really our driver's license. Most countries have a national ID card along with a driver's license. Another words, just bring a national ID card for proof of identity? Nothing else need be accepted.
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Originally Posted by sfgiants13
I've had plenty of issues with the fine TSA folks in your corner of the country at SeaTac. Some agents are under the impression that there are local variations to the federal rules. Gotta love it.
Only agency worse than that to work with consistently in many locations is USCBP! My pals!!
I read somewhere that TSA is like 25 percent military so that means the rest or 75 percent are put in authoritative positions without real work experience or training. Kids from the block with tattoos and attitudes, suddenly having a TSA badge, a position of authority telling common people how to go by the line. That's scary. At least the military veteran with TSA has seen the lines and hurry up and wait thing before. They are used to handling and getting handled authoritatively fast and concise through a line. They know SECURITY.