Seating website

Not that a nonrev gets much chance to pick a seat. But this is a great site to check out what is a good seat on flights.

www.seatguru.com

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Thanks! Looks like a good link to add to The Nonrev Portal.

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...and this is another great site where you can see how many seats there is available on flights all over the world:
<a href="http://www.idtraveller.com" target="_blank">http://www.idtraveller.com</A>

Fia http://www.nonrev.net/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Unfortunately it also includes overbooking so you better know how many seats they would overbook on that flight to find out how many seats there really is... http://www.nonrev.net/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by fiapia:
...and this is another great site where you can see how many seats there is available on flights all over the world:
<a href="http://www.idtraveller.com" target="_blank">http://www.idtraveller.com</A>

Fia http://www.nonrev.net/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

This site looks good, but as we all know there are a lot of interline agencies out there that are not really listing reliable interline discounts...many are just discount travel.

What do y'all think about this site? Is it really worth 15 Euro? Those who have access, let us know if it worth our money!

I paid the money and have access to idtraveller.com but do I think it's worth it?

Well, like I said in my previous post you have to know how much the flight you'rte looking at would be overbooked with in order to see how many seats are really available.
So in that sense it's pretty useless...

BUT, what you can do with it is to see trends and see if the sellable(sp?) seats are going up or down...

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hamilton_SAS:
I paid the money and have access to idtraveller.com but do I think it's worth it?

Well, like I said in my previous post you have to know how much the flight you're looking at would be overbooked with in order to see how many seats are really available.
So in that sense it's pretty useless...

BUT, what you can do with it is to see trends and see if the sellable(sp?) seats are going up or down... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

If you don't mind, could you post an example?

For instance, when I see an A-319 PBTs (Bookings)

I see: (Well something like this)

Seats. Booked. Authorized

..112 ...87 ....16 ......"Y"
...12 ....3 ....14 ......"F"

Then a continuation of that line showing "NRP GROUP NSB" (w/a count) for both classes

So basically I can see everyone listed in numbers, Rev and Non-rev, and KNOW how many empty seats there are

I really want to see both trends, and available seats! http://www.nonrev.net/infopop/emotic...on_biggrin.gif

p.s I want to take my wife to Stockholm Dec 16th-20th for our birthdays (she studied in Lund) so any travel suggestions would be gr8ly appreciated http://www.nonrev.net/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


Tusand Tack

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Ok, here's an example:

Checking flight SK945 ARN-ORD on Sep12:

ID-traveller says this:
SK 945 ARN (10:15) >> ORD (12:20)
There are approximately 30 seats for sale right now (in 8 open classes).

SK reservation system says this:
SK945 1A2CDJIR3YS/BMHQVWKLGXN SU12SEP04 C ARNORD 2 333 10:15 259/265

Which shows the flight to be overbooked by 6 seats. (259/265)

In every test I've done from this site, it seems the number of available seats is equal to the total number of seats available in each economy booking class, based on the avaialability display between the marketing airline and the CRS used.

For example, if avialbility shows 9s all the way across for inventories Y - W (8 RBDs), then the number of seats available = 72. When in actuality it could be anywhere between 9 and 72.

I wouldn't trust it.

Thanks... http://www.nonrev.net/infopop/emotic...on_biggrin.gif


So is there any site, free or commercial (small, not HUGE charge) out there that allows us to see actual seats/bookings?

I have been told by an AA FA that she can see OAL seats at home, heard that CO and UAL can see their own (at home), and know that this is coming for HP.

DNA,

That's a question I've been trying to find an answer to for a long time now...

If I find one I'll let you know!

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hamilton_SAS:
DNA,

That's a question I've been trying to find an answer to for a long time now...

If I find one I'll let you know! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks! http://www.nonrev.net/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>p.s I want to take my wife to Stockholm Dec 16th-20th for our birthdays (she studied in Lund) so any travel suggestions would be gr8ly appreciated


Tusand Tack
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DNA:
Thanks... http://www.nonrev.net/infopop/emotic...on_biggrin.gif


So is there any site, free or commercial (small, not HUGE charge) out there that allows us to see actual seats/bookings?

I have been told by an AA FA that she can see OAL seats at home, heard that CO and UAL can see their own (at home), and know that this is coming for HP. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I seriously doubt there is or will ever be. Most carriers would not allow that information be made public since yield management is generally a very guarded secret.

AA employees can see OA flight availability at home either through the company intranet or some form of Sabre software. In some cases they can also see seat availability but what they see cannot accurately guage is how full a flight actually is. They can't, for example, see how many seats the flight can actually accomodate vs. how many the airline has authorized for overbooking vs. how many have actually been booked. All employees see at home, or at work for that matter, is a contractually predetermined minimum number of seats available per inventory bucket. This number could be 4, 7 or 9, but that would only tell the viewer that there are at least 4 (7 or 9) seats available for sell in the given inventory (could actually be 4 or 44).

K...thanks! http://www.nonrev.net/infopop/emotic...on_biggrin.gif

Now I'm curious, what do Travel Agents see?

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by acz:
I seriously doubt there is or will ever be. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I agree with you acz.
Revenue management is confidential information. Certainly one airline does not want another airline to know their figures on any flights.