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First post here. I'd like to regale you all with stories of travel, but before I can do so, I need a job. I figured everyone here has an airline job, so where better to seek advice?
I'm 19 years old. I live about 30 mins. from MDT. I'll be going to college starting in August, so I'll need to be part-time. I'd like a CSA/Ramp job ASAP. I bet others say this, but I feel I have a lot more to offer than my resume shows. I was looking for any advice to increase my chances or advice as to what timetable I'd be looking at for being hired/getting contacted, etc. I've e-mailed a resume for openings at Comair, XJet, UA, US, and FedEx.
I'd prefer to work for a passenger airline, but does anybody know what travel benefits FedEx offers?
Thanks a bunch to anyone taking the time to respond
-Matt
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Next time I see a posting for MDT I'll let you know.
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Fedex employees can fly ZED on AA
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Well I've recieved a reply from Comair's station manager. I'm headed to the airport in about 10 minutes to fill out an app. Hope everything goes smoothly
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I'd like to regale you all with stories of travel </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
LOL http://www.nonrev.net/infopop/emotic...on_biggrin.gif
Matt,
You certainly sound like an astute young man. Most of us that participate in this forum have a passion for travel and I certainly don't want to discourage that. However, I am hoping that your job with an airline will be a means to work your way through college.
I may get some flack from my collegues here for being negative but let's face it - there are some realities that you should consider before considering a job with an airline.
Back when many of us started, it was a very coveted job. If one got on, they had it made. Benefits were great - not just flight benefits, but medical, dental, vision, pension, savings etc. For medical most of us did not even contribute a dime.
Times have changed. Don't get me wrong. I'm still thankful for my job but there are many industries with better pay and benefits. Ours are mediocre now at best. I just heard a commentary by Ilyce Glink ( www.thinkglink.com ) about concern for customer service in the industry because an entry level worker can make more at Costco and have better benefits.
One article noted that there are 3 things that make industries especially volatile - 1)capital intensity (takes a bunch o' money) 2)organized labor 3)high dependence on a natural resource (like jet fuel). Ours is one of the very very few industries that has all 3 and I really hate to mention it but the threat of terrorism or an aircraft incident just puts us way off the scale.
The travel benefits are great but are somewhat diminished since the planes are much more full and ticket prices are lower. If you can get a job that can get you to a $10k a year higher level, you can by a lot of tickets for that and you won't have to fly standby. http://www.nonrev.net/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
So get that college education or some specialized technical training if at all possible. I don't see a lot of people getting to a level in this business to make the big bucks without one - at least not any more.
But hey, the industry needs change and new blood. Maybe your just the guy to bring it.
Good luck! (if I haven't run you off)
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Well, so I went to apply today. Got my app, filled it out. The station manager was there, since we both had the time he interviewed me. I guess he liked what he saw.
I'm starting June 25th. I'm pretty excited about it. One Day orientation in CVG. I plan to work this while in college, and perhaps move into a career position once I have my degree. We shall see.
The pay is just a tiny bit less than I currently make at The Home Depot, but the benefits are way better. Not just travel, but medical, vacation, etc. every benefit is better than what I currently have.
I guess I'll be sharing stories on this forum in the near future. And I guess I have to update my profile.
Thanks everyone
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Congrats. I may have to make my way over to the A gates and say hello at some point.
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19 years old? What kind of position do you want? Why don't you join the military, give something back to this country, then get your experience working in the military plus gain some training in aviation and then put an application in. Maybe after growing up a little bit, learning some work ethic, the airlines can pick you up instead of relying on BS talk and parents to get you in. I see alot of nepotism in my outfit, and these kids are just nothing more than gangbangers that don't know their you know what from a hole in the wall. Pay some dues instead of wishing to make huge bucks for doing nothing. Just my opinion.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ColoAvs19:
First post here. I'd like to regale you all with stories of travel, but before I can do so, I need a job. I figured everyone here has an airline job, so where better to seek advice?
I'm 19 years old. I live about 30 mins. from MDT. I'll be going to college starting in August, so I'll need to be part-time. I'd like a CSA/Ramp job ASAP. I bet others say this, but I feel I have a lot more to offer than my resume shows. I was looking for any advice to increase my chances or advice as to what timetable I'd be looking at for being hired/getting contacted, etc. I've e-mailed a resume for openings at Comair, XJet, UA, US, and FedEx.
I'd prefer to work for a passenger airline, but does anybody know what travel benefits FedEx offers?
Thanks a bunch to anyone taking the time to respond
-Matt </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Wow, what's with all the hostility? I'm pretty sure this kid didn't do anything to you. Relying on BS talk and parents to get in? He said nothing about his parents. He also didn't say anything about doing this to make huge bucks. Just looking for an airline job that he can work while going to college.
While I can appreciate your views on people giving back to the country by serving in the military (I am a National Guard member, and my wife is a Reservist currently serving in Iraq), it's not for everybody, especially if he is looking at going through college right now.
Saying he needs to grow up and learn some work ethic is pretty harsh if you don't know anything about him. He may well be mature for his age and hard-working. There's no way for us to know either way.
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You may be right about that, and who knows? I don't know the man, so maybe he is a mature person, maybe he's a nice kid. I am just stating that I see alot of children of airline employees getting in the door straight into making big bucks as their first job without ever really having paid any kind of dues. They seem to be the ones that complain the most and do the least amount of work. Its out of whack. Why even get an education when you can get in the airlines and be set for life just about. It's all really about when you get in and where your seniority falls into place. Education and extra effort seems to be out the window. Pilots and mechanics seem to be the only ones with prerequisites to get hired with. Gotta have something to show before you consider even becoming a pilot or technician for the airlines. I see alot of short cuts with people relying on the unions to get them through the day at the coat tails of the educated ones that make the airlines run. Nothing personal and sorry if I sounded harsh, but that is just my view on the matter.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by uainhnl:
Wow, what's with all the hostility? I'm pretty sure this kid didn't do anything to you. Relying on BS talk and parents to get in? He said nothing about his parents. He also didn't say anything about doing this to make huge bucks. Just looking for an airline job that he can work while going to college.
While I can appreciate your views on people giving back to the country by serving in the military (I am a National Guard member, and my wife is a Reservist currently serving in Iraq), it's not for everybody, especially if he is looking at going through college right now.
Saying he needs to grow up and learn some work ethic is pretty harsh if you don't know anything about him. He may well be mature for his age and hard-working. There's no way for us to know either way. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
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UA, thanks for your support.
I have no family or friends at all in any part of the aviation industry. I have wanted an airline job for quite awhile, and researched all kind of things to get me where I am now. It just so happens that a little while ago, I got to the point where I was ready and willing to leave my current job for an airline job. I started doing heavy reading as to what entry level positions there are, pay, benefits, etc. to see if it would be in my best interest to pursue an airline job. I decided to go for it. About 5 weeks ago I sent resumes to 5 companies. I finally got a reply, and after meeting me in person, I think the manager liked me.
Not to come off the wrong way here, but I'm a very kind, proper, respectful young man. I see most people my age, and it just baffles me that people can act the way they do. At The Home Depot, I see alot of nepotism. I really hate to see a disrespectful kid a year younger than me come in, start at higher pay than I've attained with a year of work, and really not do much of anything. My biggest problem at Depot is that no one cares. The managers don't care, the associates don't care. They see an aisle is a big mess, and they sneek by quick because they know someone else will clean it up. Everyone at that place is out for themselves, and I'm just not like that.
I am very conservative, thus I feel that nothing should come free. I feel that anything you attain, you should work for it. I wouldn't want to cancel my travel plans because the last seat goes to someone more senior, but I would gladly give up that seat, even if I didn't have to, because that's the way it should be. My senior has payed his dues, he/she deserves that seat much more than I do.
As far as military, it's just not for me. I greatly appreciate what the military does for all Americans. I know that each one of those soldiers/airmen/etc. are all much more courageous than I am. I can achieve my career plans without help/experience from the military.
The job I just got is a college job. Once I have my degree, if Comair has a job for my career choice, I'd stick with them. I know that I cannot expect to ascend through a company to big bucks with just a high school education. That is why I'm going to college.
Thanks to anyone that judges me by my character, and doesn't just assume I'm another stereotypical punk kid.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I guess I'll be sharing stories on this forum in the near future. And I guess I have to update my profile. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Matt,
Congratulations and welcome aboard!
I'm encouraged to hear of your college plans. It sounds like you've got it way more together than most of your peers.
I'm looking forward to reading your trip reports from some exiting travels!
Let us know any way we can help.
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This may not be a popular statement from me, but if I was your age and we had this screwed up President back then, I don't think I'd want to join the military either. I think its a shame the way the military is treated today with double or triple tours of duty and for what? Good luck to you. I'm sure you will do fine. You don't really owe anybody any explanation, just prove what you have to do for yourself and do what you gotta do. Remember. NO AIRFLOW, NO LIFT. You need to get down the runway to gain the airflow needed for the lift. If the conveyor is moving the other direction, the plane don't move. It's not a ROCKET ENGINE.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ColoAvs19:
UA, thanks for your support.
I have no family or friends at all in any part of the aviation industry. I have wanted an airline job for quite awhile, and researched all kind of things to get me where I am now. It just so happens that a little while ago, I got to the point where I was ready and willing to leave my current job for an airline job. I started doing heavy reading as to what entry level positions there are, pay, benefits, etc. to see if it would be in my best interest to pursue an airline job. I decided to go for it. About 5 weeks ago I sent resumes to 5 companies. I finally got a reply, and after meeting me in person, I think the manager liked me.
Not to come off the wrong way here, but I'm a very kind, proper, respectful young man. I see most people my age, and it just baffles me that people can act the way they do. At The Home Depot, I see alot of nepotism. I really hate to see a disrespectful kid a year younger than me come in, start at higher pay than I've attained with a year of work, and really not do much of anything. My biggest problem at Depot is that no one cares. The managers don't care, the associates don't care. They see an aisle is a big mess, and they sneek by quick because they know someone else will clean it up. Everyone at that place is out for themselves, and I'm just not like that.
I am very conservative, thus I feel that nothing should come free. I feel that anything you attain, you should work for it. I wouldn't want to cancel my travel plans because the last seat goes to someone more senior, but I would gladly give up that seat, even if I didn't have to, because that's the way it should be. My senior has payed his dues, he/she deserves that seat much more than I do.
As far as military, it's just not for me. I greatly appreciate what the military does for all Americans. I know that each one of those soldiers/airmen/etc. are all much more courageous than I am. I can achieve my career plans without help/experience from the military.
The job I just got is a college job. Once I have my degree, if Comair has a job for my career choice, I'd stick with them. I know that I cannot expect to ascend through a company to big bucks with just a high school education. That is why I'm going to college.
Thanks to anyone that judges me by my character, and doesn't just assume I'm another stereotypical punk kid. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Thanks Chris.
Thanks Palms for coming around a little.
I still say that the engines push it through the air, creating airflow. The ground could go incredibly fast, it wouldn't matter. Plus, a rocket vs. a jet wouldn't make an ounce of difference in this situation.
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You're right. The jet engines push the airplane through the air to create airflow, but it has to get off the ground first to capture the airflow. Once its in the air, the engines do the work, but if its on the ground in a tread mill, and this tread mill is going equal to the thrust the opposite direction, there is no airflow so its impossible to fly. If this were the case, the MARINES would not be spending huge bucks on HARRIERS jet fighters and you could be taking B-777's off aircraft carriers equipped with a huge tread mill that could carry alot more personell. Right? That is why they use HELICOPTERS or HARRIERS off AIRCRAFT CARRIERS. The jets that take off ships face off into the wind and utilize the slingshot effect to push them through the carrier flight decks to gain the needed lift. What you're saying, is that any airplane would take off any carrier equipped with a huge tread mill because the engines would eventually lift the plane up right? The design is just not there my friend.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ColoAvs19:
Thanks Chris.
Thanks Palms for coming around a little.
I still say that the engines push it through the air, creating airflow. The ground could go incredibly fast, it wouldn't matter. Plus, a rocket vs. a jet wouldn't make an ounce of difference in this situation. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
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I think I explained my theory a little better in the thread for this in the off topic forum. speaking of off topic, not to sound rude, we should hold our ongoing discussion about this in the other forum.
Read my response in the other forum, I think its a little more clear as to what I'm trying to say.
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....That's right TARZAN!
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Migflanker:
Welcome aboard 19. Keep us updated on those growing biceps. http://www.nonrev.net/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://www.nonrev.net/infopop/emotic...on_biggrin.gif
Keep'em flying </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Hey ColoAvs19...
Welcome to the Delta family!! Any questions you may have let me know and I will gladly help out...I am with Delta at PBI so if ya ever get here to enjoy our beaches look me up..
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Well my flight for orientation leaves in 7 hours. I might try to make my first, barely coherent, trip report. I finally put up the cash for an mp3 player for my future long trips. So I'll give that a try tomorrow. Yay, orientation, they're always fun.
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Have fun with weekend trips to Dubai, Johannesburg, Buenos Aires, Honolulu, Anchorage, Tokyo, and Athens.
