MyIDTravel for Cathay Pacific Seats Available

All,

First of all, thank you for helping.
I am trying to non-rev from LAX-HKG-TPE.

I have some questions.

1) How many bag can non-rev allow to check in? and how heavy each?

2) Does anyone know what the smile green face, yellow face, and red angry face actually means??
And if they are accurate indication of the load?

3)When I click the flight number, it shows seats available information.
But I have hard time understanding the seats available info.
And I am not sure if they are accurate.

Can anyone help me understand this?
Explain what each category means?
Here is an example of what it shows for LAX-HKG on 3-30-12 flight number CX881.
This is a yellow face.

F4 A4 Z3 J7 C7 D7 I7 U3 P0 Y4 B4 H4 K3 M3 L3 V2 G1 S2 N1 T0 X0 E0

Here is an example of a red face.

F6 A6 Z2 J9 C9 D9 I9 U9 P0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 G0 S0 N0 T0 X0 E0

Here is an example of green face.

F2 A2 Z0 J8 C8 D6 I5 U0 P0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 G0 S9 N3 T0 X0 E0

Thank you.

hey zanumbers!

Part of the ZED agreement is that people flying on a ZED are allowed at least two bags at 50 pounds each, but it's best to avoid checking a bag if at all possible.

As for the load examples, the main classes are F, J/C, and Y. F is First, J or C is business (airlines may vary what they usually use) and Y is economy. The fare types to the right of their "full fare" class as mentioned above are cheaper versions of the same class of service, but also depend on other factors when booking the ticket to get it. You can ignore that and just look at F, J, and Y in this case. The number next to it is the number of seats that will still be sold for a flight in that class, but it tops out at 9 shown. Could actually be 9, could be 99. It's also possible that more seats will be sold than exist, because the airline expects no-shows. The green/red/yellow faces are rough representations of that, but should be taken with a grain of salt - read on for why.

Keep in mind, however, that some routes have dozens of standbys. If that 9 really means 9 and not 99, and there are 15 standbys (which don't show up on the availability) you may have issues. Also, it's hard to say how accurate the numbers are depending on the systems used. Overall, I like to use that as a way of knowing which flights NOT to try for. When there are green or yellow faces, it's worth talking to the airline for more information (try their reservations phone number).

LAX-HKG can be very tricky, research this route very well before you go for this one. Anywho, I am always cautious about he face thing on the nonrev websites- who the hell knows how to interpret those crazy faces. Do you have zed agreements with BR and CI, they fly out to TPE directly out of a couple of west coaat gateways. Not sure how easy it is for you to make it to ORD, but as a sidenote this route is less tan a year old so it is starting up. Newish routes usually are easier to get on.

Regards,

Chepos

So from reading your post,

What I am understanding is that:

Yellow face
F4 A4 Z3 J7 C7 D7 I7 U3 P0 Y4 B4 H4 K3 M3 L3 V2 G1 S2 N1 T0 X0 E0

This means that there are 4 more tickets to sell for First Class, 7 tickets to sell for Business, and 4 for Economy and that will be 15 total seats open.

Red face.

F6 A6 Z2 J9 C9 D9 I9 U9 P0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 G0 S0 N0 T0 X0 E0

This means that there are 6 more tickets to sell for First Class, at least 9 tickets to sell for Business, and 0 for Economy and that will be at least total seats open.

Green face.

F2 A2 Z0 J8 C8 D6 I5 U0 P0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 G0 S9 N3 T0 X0 E0
This means that there are 2 more tickets to sell for First Class, 8 tickets to sell for Business, and at least 9 for Economy and that will be at least total 19 seats open.

Am I understanding this correctly?
The rest of the letters are just how many seat for each fare class under First, Business, and Economy.
13 fare class for Economy
6 fare class for Business
3 fare class for First

You're 99% correct. The one thing is that it's not necessarily how many seats they have, but how many they'll sell. On a 747, they may expect 30 no-shows, so if that plane holds 300 people in Y, they'll sell 330 tickets (just making up numbers here, but the idea is pretty close). If that Y9 really means there are only about 10 seats left for sale, in this case that would mean that they have 320 people booked on a flight that holds 300, but you would theoretically have a chance still IF they are accurate in their no-show predictions and if there aren't enough other standbys to fill those seats.

Really, those numbers aren't even designed for nonrevs. It's a major piece of the puzzle when booking passengers for a flight, either by the airline or through travel agencies (or other airlines if there's an itinerary with multiple airlines). It's also used for rebooking passengers when they misconnect or what have you. In that case, you only really care about what seats can be booked for a confirmed passenger, and they don't need to worry about standby anything.

Each letter in that string represents a fare class that's available for purchase for that flight. As spongebue mentioned it's mainly for agents when booking/rebooking a flight. A 14 day advance, non-refundable fare may be an "H" class fare, a 21 day advance may be a "G" class fare, etc.