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Hey all,
Was just wondering if UA employees can non-rev on NZ and what the process is. Also, if anyone has done it, what was your experience? I'm looking at flying from HNL to IVC as much as I can once I start the new job (new to UA).
Thank you and happy flying!
I'm pretty sure UA has a zed agreement with NZ, we at US have a high zed agreement. It is the most expensive zed agreement, not sure what agreement UA and NZ have. Not sure if you are familiar with the ZED process, but it works like this - you purchase your zed ticket (not sure if NZ is using paper or electronic) from your employer. Then you list for the flight and cross your fingers the flight looks good, then you either make it or you don't. As easy as that.
That's the best interpretation on Zed standby travel I've heard yet. "Hop on the bus gus, you don't have to discuss much, just drop off the key Lee, and set yourself free". Good job Chepos.
:D so what, just tell my supervisor that I want to go to...lets say a birthday party or wedding (whatever the occasion) in NZ and thats about it?
Has anyone actually flown with NZ or Qantas as an employee of another airline (ZED or ID90, buddy pass, etc)??
Hey all
1) the problem where "unregistered" was able to post was my fault, and not an attempt to do anything wrong by anyone.
2) being a forum admin is tough...lots of spammers trying to post garbage on here all the time, so you can understand that we sometimes react harshly to things that appear to be odd, hacked, etc.
So, since I was the cause of the misunderstanding, I edited this thread and removed some back-and-forth that was neither the original posters, nor our moderator's fault.
In any case, my fault, we had a bad setting that's been changed now. Carry on...
Hey hawaiiboardrider, we do get ID90s with NZ, but those can be pretty expensive compared to a ZED. You can view all agreements if you go to Skynet -> Travel -> Other Airline/Interline Travel (under Travel Programs) -> then view available interline agreements. Just keep in mind that the vast majority of airlines require 6 months of seniority, and it looks like NZ actually requires a year. We do get a typical ZED agreement with EK, though!
Most airlines you need to make a ticket request, which has a form linked on the Other Airline/Interline Travel page. Fill out the form, and wait 12-24 hours. For now, these requests are actually being done manually by an outsourced group. You'll get an email back with a confirmation number. Take that number back to the airport and ask to buy a paper zed ticket. Make absolutely sure that you have the one marked "Flight coupon" on top, it will be on a blue ticket stock card. This is your proof of payment, do not give it up until you get on that plane. Lose the card, lose the payment. The exceptions are Era Alaska, Hawaiian, Frontier, and Spirit. Those are electronically ticketed, link is on that page.
However, that paper ticket isn't enough. You also want to get a listing. On Condor, Finnair, JetBlue, Delta, and Lufthansa, there's a site where you can list electronically. Otherwise, you have to give the airline a call. They should be able to list you over the phone.
Once you have your ticket and confirmation number (NOT the one used to make the ticket request form) you should be good to go. Just show up, check in, and give them the paper ticket when asked (should be at boarding).
I'm actually working on the ZED fare process with United right now, though on the computer side of things. I've gotten to be pretty familiar with a lot of it, so if you have questions let me know.
Wow! Great information! Thank you:) So just to clarify- air new Zealand requires a year seniority to do zed and id90's? What was that other airline you mentioned? Seems a lot harder than I would have thought;) but I guess I'll get used to it and more familiar with the process as my career progresses.
I don't log onto the forum regularly but whenever I do I enjoy the information, games and general fun of the boards. However, I felt compelled to write this time in regards to your last post to this thread and your "unregistered" guest about his/her comments. I totally disagree with the way this whole situation is being handled. Whenever an individual writes something a bit questionable on the board; one who doesn't take the time to register but takes the time to be curt should have no opportunity in the future to continue doing the same at his/her discretion. As the "big cheese" it's obvious that you don't respect the moderator's ability (the one that you apparently appointed in the first place) to monitor the board and make a decision based on what he believes to be appropriate. I would hope that in instances where I as a manager (moderator) in making a decision would know that my "boss" would have my back, but that's just me.
Tried to explain it above, but this was a bit different in that the situation was created because I hadn't fixed a bad setting. If it were right in the first place, nobody could have posted as "unregistered", and no controversy would have ensued. Righting my own wrong as it were.Quote:
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Thanks for the explanation but I think you are missing my point. I understood that you were "righting your wrong" but you did it at the expense of your moderating staff.Quote:
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I believe that you have inadvertently opened the door for others to disrespect your moderators. Once there is rudeness, in whatever form, to a moderator you no longer have control over the direction of the board. A benchmark has now been created for others to look to since apparently the only person who has been reprimanded was a member of your staff, not the person who was discourteous in the first place.
I think your responsibility was to back the play of your moderating staff which you didn't do.
Well, to all involved I apologize for the drama. Bowler, thanks for the info. Admin, thanks for reopening the thread so that I could get that info. However, there is too much drama going on. I think the best thing to do for everyone's sake is to close the thread again. Idk. Up to you. But I'm gonna go elsewhere with future questions. Thanks again and happy flying to everyone.Quote:
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I didn't miss your point. I happen to disagree with most of your conclusions, but I'm declining to comment on it in a public forum as it's nobody's business but mine and the moderators.Quote:
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Heh. Not closing the thread. Nobody was "reprimanded" either.
I hope you stick around HBR--we have lots of good stuff to share!
I think that most drama has faded away, and is continuing to do so. I'm more concerned about what happens in the future than a bump in the road a mile back. No need to stop, back up, examine the bump, and then move forward again. Oh, and for what it's worth... Newton's 4th law states that if you have a forum that allows for unregistered people to post, people will eventually do it.
Anyway, to answer your question, most carriers use ZEDs, though a few use ID90s or maybe ID95s. There is no single carrier where you can get a "ZED or ID90..." they'll either go with one or the other. But yes, NZ requires a year of seniority, while every other airline I remember require 6 months. If you have access to SHARES, you can also enter GG PASS OA, with OA being the code for the other airline (ie, GG PASS NZ). If you don't, it's generally pretty much identical to what's on that other site I mentioned.
Other airline I mentioned... you mean EK? That's Emirates.
It may be a little complicated sounding at first, but once you do it once or twice it's pretty easy.
Ok wow. That kinda sucks. HAHA. I will probably be getting access to these intranet log-ins and whatnot in about a week or two but I'll ask anyway. What about HA? I know they have just started a Non Stop to Sydney. What is their required "time in service"? And how about JetStar?Quote:
Originally Posted by spongebue
Thank you very much for all this great information! Your help is greatly appreciated.
HBR--take a close look at your company nonrev page--I'm almost surprised how much stuff is on ours. You may have to do a few links, but there must be a page that shows the terms for each airline agreement. Stick around--most of us are harmless. LCC's [like Jetstar] don't typically show on any agreements. Once you get access, spend a little time looking at those zed/ID carriers and you'll get a ton of info crammed into your brain. Good luck retaining most of it!
Hmmm, not seeing anything for Jetstar. Hawaiian requires 6 months (I'd just assume that all airlines do at this point) but it does look like they have ZED Lows for all passengers in all cabins, including first, which is really nice.
You do know that UA flies to Australia, right? I know the loads can be bad, but even my old supervisor got F on a SYD-SFO flight one time, and she was flying at United Express priority!
Ok, found one agreement that breaks the mold. After addiegirl's thread about Cape Air, I saw that they require a $25 flat service charge each way, and only need 3 months of service. Probably not what you're looking for, but hey... it exists.
Ahh. Wow that does seem good:) and alright. I suppose it makes sense that you have to put in a bit of time. We are getting some amazing benefits after all. And yeah, I know UA flies to Australia... Just looking at all my options:) thank you so much for all the great information! Reall appreciate it! And if anything else comes up, don't hesitate to let me know;) thanks again!Quote:
Originally Posted by spongebue
Oh! Just thought of another question...
how long before I can use benefits on UA? 6 months right?
And NZ is a year... Well, NZ9 is also UA6757 (the flight from HNL to AKL). But it's operated by NZ. Would I have to wait 6 months or 1 year? Like couldn't I book through UA... Doesn't matter who actually flies the plane right? Or does it?
Haha, sorry for all the questions. Thank you in advance:)
Ah yes, codesharing. The last desperate attempt at trying to get on a flight operated by someone they normally couldn't fly. What I'm saying is, you definitely aren't the first to ask that question :P ... codeshares are purely done for marketing of revenue passengers. With nonrevenue, it doesn't mean anything, so you can't use that as an excuse. The one exception is IAD-MAD-IAD. This route is operated by Aer Lingus, run just like how SkyWest and Mesa run regional routes for United Express, but with a big plane instead. You can fly that one round-trip route, along with those express flights.
And now, the good news. You work for UA itself, right? Or another company contracted by UA that gets flight benefits, like one of the regional carriers? When I started working for SkyWest, there was a 2 WEEK waiting time, I think so that our HR/Travel department could have enough time to send the names of everyone covered over to United. I just started a new job with United about a month ago, and my previous seniority had no impact whatsoever on this. I believe I had benefits right away, I did use them a week or two after starting.
Yeah, I work for Chelsea Food Services, the Food Division of United Airlines. So we get all the benefits and privileges or lets say...a ticket agent.
So your saying I CAN NOT book through UA for a NZ operated flight without waiting the 1 year?
And congratulations on your new job with UA!
HBR, I think, ultimately you'll just have to contact your benefits department to get answers to many of these questions.
Yeah, because Chelsea Food Services isn't technically an airline you may not be able to get ZED fares period. Then again, SkyWest used to piggyback on Delta's ZED agreements, so maybe you can get lucky. I'd talk to someone with your benefits, they should know better. Even if you can't get ZEDs, there's still plenty you can do with United benefits if you're flexible and spontaneous!