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One of my co-workers was flying out and had me watching Travelnet for him.
When it came down to clearing stand-by pax, the airport stand-by list was down to zero seats, with my co-worker showing removed.
I told him the bad news and then he told me he had to go because they were clearing him.
After the fact, he told me that there 4 open seats on his flight. I looked in Travelnet and sure enough, it showed 4 available seats.
Why the discrepancy?
Anybody ever experience this before?
travelnet is very accurate and pulls straight from deltaterm...the issue with travelnet is within about 20-25minutes before departure so much is happening on that flights seat assignements and passenger numbers that each refresh could give you a different number...if I am watching a flight for my ppr riders, I dont even trust deltaterm within that time frame because I know the gate agents are doing things that may not be entered in deltaterm right away...
i have worked flights oversold, no seats available for standby and leave with all standbys cleared and seats still available...seats will open up when we cancel noshow passengers and also when we verify that virtual check in passengers are not on board...normally happens close to departure time and it is sometimes after the flights leave that we pull rev pax seat assignments and show nonrevs with seat assignments and on board, that is why you should never leave the gate until the plane does or you could miss out on an available seat...
I agree DeltaFlyer. Twice I have made the flight after the gate agent made the "I'll roll all the standbys over to the next flight" speech. When he/she realized seats still available and started calling names.... I was still there :)
Only once did we abandon a gate--10 mins before departure:
the agent had just paid off two rev pax to fly next day--hotel vouchers etc.
We went to our hotel and saw the flight went out with 4 empty seats but 2 S4's got on. That was a thousand dollar error on a seat count!!
The trickiest are the commuter airports like JFK/LGA and ATL--no shows and last minute shows. Even travelnet can't be accurate in those circumstances!
I never give my "buddy pass" people any numbers for up front...just that they'll be lucky to get on the back.
Can you give me the website address for "Travelnet"
Sorry airshow1, it is an internal Delta site for employee travel and only avail to those with access to our DLNET IntranetQuote:
Originally Posted by airshow1
My partner and I are about to purchase S4's to europe. The flights to Europe this summer (late May, ealrly June) are very expensive. I have to wonder if that is one of the reasons why there are so many seats still avail and we are less than 100 days from departure. I know that could change. If the tix prices were to drop-we would just buy our own seats, but there is no sign of that happening.
The info shared on this forum has been very helpful and planning for all of the "what if's" . This is our first time to be non-rev passengers. It seems knowledge is key and so I am trying to learn all I can. I am little more concerened about getting home as those flights look more booked...but not still anywhere being fillled. In fact, I have looked at buying tickets to Gatwick (easyjet or ryanair) as there should be more seats avail to the US, since there are more flights.
Thanks again for all the helpful info...
Thanks rlsrlj. Nonrev.net is all about helping our fellow NRSA traveler navigate those sometimes tricky nonrev skies.Quote:
Originally Posted by rlsrlj
Welcome aboard and do let us know how your first trip goes.
key is fllexibility andNOT choosing the most popular cities like FCO--go for Pisa, MXP etc
or alternatives in Spain, like AGP, etc. think outside teh rev box and become one with nonrev...
you cn change an S4 pass for $25 + distance charges abd keep in mid taxes vary ALOT in EU--
$35-60 for many cities--almosr$150 for UK
rlsflj
where are you flying to and from? I am also looking to fly to europe on S4 around the same time. How is it looking for you? I am trying to fly out from Bos to LHR during the last weekend of May. Waiting to hear about loads from my Dl friend. She has 30 years w Delta so that should help. Can you upgrade the buddy pass to a higher standby priority? Are you finding better points of departure? I assume you can gate check luggage once you are cleared to fly.
papa--you need to ask your employee for the DL rules of nonrev travel you gobefore she can email of fax but you should not use a buddy pass without being properly educated
you don't get upgraded any way but thru DOH seniority
you can check (or not) a bag on most routes--a few routes do not recommend buddies check a bag at all--it may lessen your chance of getting boarded last minute (that's one of the rare ways a buddy who is junior may get a seat instead of you)
good luckand have fun paying those nasty LHR taxes/fees
Yeah the fees at LHR are not fun but if we get on the flight I won't complain. Promise. I can't imagine traveling with just a carry on to Europe. Thanks!
We always travel with a small carry-on roller board and a smaller bag....works great.
I'm with Pago on carry bags. Just did 12 day nonrev trip to Thailand w/22 inch carry and small handbag. My neice had a little less than I did!!
Like they said, small carry-on bag is the way to go. Try and get a short one that fits "wheels first". It will make your life much easier.
OK I'm convinced. I'll try to fit into my small wheeled bag and just mini size all toiletries into carry on. I guess I'll have to roll up lots of knit wear and limit shoes..very tough. I just saw a great line of handbag's designed by FA's for travel. Would love to hear any great tips for packing light. Not traveling with my two boys will make it easier.
I've always found that low maintenance toiletries is important but the KEY is limiting shoes!! If you can't wear a pair of shoes with at least half your clothes, you're taking too many! I have banned all trainers/sneakers for INT travel--ack--I might look like a tourist!! (heaven forbid!!) 2 pair shoes MAX. You'll find it so easy to deal with packing.
I don't take many knits--just woven fabrics--they pack lighter. My fave trick is JUMBO HEFTY bags--OMG!!! You can get 2-3 garments fold in each one and smaller items fit in gallon bags, undies in quart size bags--throw them out after a few trips. They keep stuff organized, clean and safe from TSA type hands...and you can fit so much in a small space.
Guilty on over packing shoes. Love the Hefty idea. I have some of those vacuum sealed bags that keep things reasonably wrinkle free. I use zip locks for toiletries all the time. My bags always get searched. Thanks for the good advice.
I've got a question that sort of relates to this thread. There are usually differences in the number of available seats in coach that are shown on travelnet vs delta.com for various reasons, but business/first are usually the same on both websites. I'm listed on a flight that shows 2 available in business on travelnet but 6 available on delta.com. Any thoughts on why that would be? It's a codeshare flight with Air France.
Thanks!
We are going to Munich (via Gatwick if necessary and then Easyjet to Munich) next Saturday, then returning from Venice (more likely Milan or Pisa) June 11. Just as said earlier, flexibility is key. There are several low-cost carriers in Europe-Easyjet, Ryanair, just to name a couple. These can be a great help in getting to your final destination.Quote:
Originally Posted by papakim
philly---did you check the numbers on the hard count as listed on second page?
delta.com is not accurate since they have pax w/out assigned seats so the seats might be occupied (often the BE # are close, however)
when you say code share AF--whose metal is it? Are you flying zed w/AF?
If i'm looking in the right place for the hard count, it says 7 seats remaining in business. Delta metal.