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Did you have other backups to get out of LHR? I believe BA, VS, and AA also do many trips to several points in the US. UA also does flights to DEN, SFO, and LAX. There are many others that have flights from LGW, such as CO, DL, NW, US, AI, and some more VS.
Whenever I travel (be it across country or just a hop to the bay area), I always have backups ready, since you never know when there will be a cxl. They are fully refundable if not used.
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UA was my backup. OS was my primary but the flight ended up being overbooked at last minuete because I checked and we had plenty of empty seats.. never realize that it was an holiday weekend for the kids so flights filled up and oversold and I ended up missing the flight. The OS flight to washington board at the same time so I missed that also. I therefore use my backup which was United and flew to heathrow and tried for United and missed out. Never made it out until the next morning.
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Again, my two-cents-worth on HNL. I suppose Al is correct about HNL depending on where you're trying to get from/to. I have heard nasty stories about AC's route YVR-HNL-SYD from co-workers.
HNL can be horrific if you choose the wrong time of the year. But, as with anything, including space-a travel, timing is everything and backup passes are a must.
We frequent Hawai'i often. Usually thru LAX, sometimes thru SFO and occassionally nonstop from ORD. We have flown TZ, AA and CO. September and January are our months of choice but we have sucessfully done it in Feb, April, May, July and August as well. (There was that 3 day attempt to get there in June a few years ago! Never again in June! http://www.nonrev.net/infopop/emotic...on_redface.gif )
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Sounds like most of us have been "taken in" by several of the famous NRSA black holes...
Myself, it's been HNL X3, BKK X2 and SYD X1... Had to get an ID90 on AC to get out of HNL.. ID 95 on TG to get out of BKK and ID 90 again on AC to get out of SYD..
I've found that overall AC makes a pretty good "ID protection" ticket.. They travel to most places worlwide that a NRSA would go and have reliable service.. I'm not endorsing AC, but in my past practice, found them to be my life saver on more than one occurance...
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Interesting, that's been my experience too.
First big trip to London. Primary oversold, backup oversold. Scrambling to find an alternative. AC got us there thru YOW with no problem. Fast forward a few years. A grand 2 1/2 week adventure to China. Same problem. Plans falling apart. Scrambling for alternatives again. AC came to the rescue via YVR.
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AC may be coming to the rescue yet again. Rumor is they'll be flying Toronto-Los Angeles-Sydney with new 777s starting early next year. A new player on the LAX/SYD route should bring a little light into the Sydney black hole. http://www.nonrev.net/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Keep'em flying
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No rumour. AC has applied to the Oz Govt for approval. The U.S. gave Canada full traffic rights from it's ports, used as a stopover on flights from Canada to a 3rd country, in the last round of talks a couple of months ago. This is the first visible sign that AC for one intends to make full use of the freedoms.
Back when I was with AN, AC were fantastic on one occasion when I was trying to get from LHR-YYZ. ID90 days - before ZED's so had a fistful of back-ups. One of AC's LHR-YYZ went mechanical, so instantly one just knew start heading towards the other carriers in T3 at Thiefrow. But no, friendly AC check-in agent says, "if you want to run we'll accept your LHR-YYZ coupon - you can make the LHR-YYT-YHZ flight and we'll then carry you from YHZ into YYZ". Ended up falling in love with Nova Scotia as we came in to land there, asked the AC staff on arrival if it was okay to continue on the next day (no coupons remember), as I wanted to have a night looking around. "Sure, not a problem" was the reply. So I had a nice afternoon/evening in YHZ then the next day was routed to YYZ via YUL.
My LHR-YYZ coupon got me LHR-YYT-YHZ-YUL-YYZ over two days - and people wonder why we love this biz !
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wow.. pretty awesome. AC is real good last year when I had my positive space letter and called to book I was given a confirmation for two and when I arrived at the airport and picked up the tickets I was suprised to find that I didn't have to pay anything from lga to toronto. I have another positive space letter and will save that for somewhere like tokyo
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Well, I can't really say SIN is a black hole as long as you have backup tickets ready.
Been going STO-SIN 22 times now and never stuck once! http://www.nonrev.net/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Then again I carry tickets for about 10 different routes and all the carriers we have agreements with on those routes!
Same thing with BKK! Never stuck when stopping there on my way to/from SIN. Got close once but we managed to get on the last TG flight of the night to CPH that was oversold by 22! http://www.nonrev.net/infopop/emotic...on_biggrin.gif
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While I still contend that timing is everything, here's an article that might just explain why you can't find that elusive seat or that great interline hotel discount.
Click: Hawaii close to capacity