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I have a friend who flies for DL that has never used his buddy passes. He's willing to help me with some if I need it, but he had no idea how they worked. Can someone help with this? I know there are some Delta peeps here lol. PM me if you don't want to make the info public.
Thanks!
Basically it's a yield fare ticket for standby. Your buddy has to pay $50 to activate 8 passes/yr. My family pays our fee. Passes are good for a year and are fully refundable. Price is based on distance, taxes/fees and now fuel surcharge. Best to sue for overseas travel. Buddies travel on emps seniority after all emps are boarded. If first or biz class are available, it should be automatic upgrade on our AC and some connection lines.
Example of recent ticketing I did a few minutes ago:
MCO/BKK via JFK and NRT with return to DAB was just under a grand for RT. $25 fee for changes to destination beyond 100 miles (NY airports are all one destination, DAB was our original start but no fee to use MCO in this case. SFO/BKK and return was $850. Those $ include the fuel surcharge of $100RT.
Your emp can do all the pass assignments online, then ticket as needed throughout his employment yr. Happy to do more details after you set it up w/him, but he'll have to do some of the checking--I'm exhausted after today!!!
Thanks soooo much! I'll have him get cracking. It won't be for a while till I'm ready to use them though. Are the DTW-HKG flights usually packed?
At Delta the buddies ALWAYS travel as S4's..... Behind Active, retired, parents, other airlines. I agree that a buddy should never have a higher priority than an active employee. At NWA and now Delta the spouse and dependent children have always traveled with the employees seniority date even when traveling without them. One travel rule that NWA had was the a manager, their spouse and kids always flew with a higher priority than the employees. Even vacation passes were lower priority than managers everyday travel. When is comes to pass travel at Delta, mangers and employees are treated the same.
We got rid of our managers flying at higher priority, but given that, it was better than what I see happening now. I just disagree with unacompanied spouses or eligible pass riders bumping active employees that must get back to work to make the operation happen. A guy gets married suddenly the spouse whom never touched an airplane nor travelled free before suddenly bumps an active employee just because her new husband has more time than they? Most absurd thing I ever heard of.
Then employee children should have no rights either, following that logic. They never flew on pass privs before they were born. He earned the pass priv and by marriage, she has same rights. I ahve left the gate and gone home when I was taking a frivolous trip (more than once) since there were lots of uniformed employee trying to commute w/few seats. I will not relinquish my seat for our vacation travel, however, and will certainly use my high priority (S2) when I need it. I get 6 /yr. My husband commutes and he's typically goes in very early, double commutes or overnight to make a work trip. That's his responsibility, not another employee spouse's. If a spouse is required to be accompanied by employee then that's TWO seats taken, possible denying 2 commuters or 2 someones having to get back to work (from their personal trip?) Hogwash. Not logical at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by 29palms
Pilots and F/A are the only employees that have to fly, the rest of us do it for fun. It is the employees responsibility at ANY job to get to work on time, not the employer. Have you discussed this with fellow employees? I would be shocked if you were not in the minority on your views about spouse & children traveling without the employee.Quote:
Originally Posted by 29palms
Mmmm.. Can a woman be the employee?Quote:
Originally Posted by 29palms
Wow!Quote:
Originally Posted by 29palms
Wow again! IF you were to ever have someone in your life and procreate, would you feel the same way?Quote:
Originally Posted by 29palms
I see alot of Positive Space Upgrades for non-cabin employees and that's the way it should be. If it's policy for them to be upgraded to make a ferry or mechanical trip, they should have that perk, and they outrank me. No problem. My husband earned his 25 yrs and I take care of him, much like you and others maintain the aircraft. Both are vital, and I am, too. So, your wife is below you? You can disagree w/me all you want. If I could bump you off a flight, I almost wish I could do it just because you're such a entitled bully. I'm sure some pimple-faced, snot-nosed teen will do exactly that unwittingly. Karma. Your nonrev world must be a pretty ugly place considering your bigoted attitude.
And then we will see a Youtube video of 29palms have a meltdown like that AA flight attendant the other day! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by mrs767er
I prefer my company's method of first-come-first-served in regards to standby boarding priority. If you're early, you're at the top of the list, regardless if a VP shows up at that last minute with his/her family.
My job requires me to fly (jumpseat) x number of hours per year, so it's not just pilots/FAs.
Are you always this cheery?Quote:
Originally Posted by 29palms
What about commuters who just arrive an hour or less prior because they were working a flight? Or reroutes, weather delays. That won't work with legacy carriers. So many legacy employees don't live at base and they have a lot more than a few bases in the US alone. You're dealing with a point to point carrier. We don't allow shirts to get preferential treatment on standby any more either. I think that's fair.
Sometimes it works in your favor, sometimes it doesn't. Flight crews that don't live in base get priority on the jumpseat, and still have the 4th cabin jumpseat as an option.
It's hard to say that SWA is simply a point-to-point anymore. BWI (178), PHX (177), LAS (204), and MDW (214) all have enough daily departures to be considered hubs (regardless whether we call them hubs or not). I know departures are not the only component in a "hub", but with 3500 flights per day, there's only so many point-to-point routes one can have before you end up having to funnel psgrs into main cities.
Too much anxiety for me! (did they get here before me? was I late?) I prefer a more level playground based on seniority. wink.
Cheers!
NOT what I wrote. Read it again. What a moronic interpretation.
Yes, she deserves the same rights as employee spouse IF that is the airline policy. How can you not get that? I can't help if if you can't comprehend that simple rule and the logic as it applies. Doesn't matter if marriage is sudden, brief or many years.
Employee's immediate family has same rights as employee on our airline. I don't give a rodent's derierre what yours does. Gripe all you want, you aren't going to change our policy and it has nothing to do with you. (I'm picturing you squeezing an unopened beer can that it explodes, as your red blood pops out the top of your head like a cartoon thermometer.)
So its fair to get rid of the shirts for standby priority but its fair for you to travel above active employees. You call that a fair level playround? I don't know how this policy came about but obviously it was very political. At least, the shirts work for the airlines. Their standby priority was at least a PERK. Not everyone wanted to step up and become a supervisor, and give up all their union protection for little pay. Maybe not fair but I can at least see the arguement.
This conversation is not going anywhere. Why don't we drop it. Your point of view is very irritating to me, and I don't wish to get angry here to the point of saying something that will get me booted. For what its worth. Thanks for your response and viewpoint on the matter, at least you were honest to yourself about it. Thanks again.
That is a bit shady, I'll have to agree with M767er on this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by SKC
I agree 29palms... We will have to agree to disagree. Most airline pass travel rules have good AND bad things about them. I am happy to say I believe Delta has the best overall. :)
Dona nobis pacem. Glad to disagree and I think your comments were way out of line, 29palms. I fly same as shirts and shirts' spouses. Doesn't effect you except for your vitriol.
BTW NW allowed shirts to upgrade with entire families any time they wanted without warning. Combination policy--best and worst of both worlds. We got stuck with 6 yr olds in business class. ARGH
Since this is the worst part of our flight benefits, I'll say it again, Delta has the best travel pass perks out there today!Quote:
Originally Posted by mrs767er
So far, I haven't been tempted to club any!
Boss had 8 yr old son on trip to PUJ (first time biz class) He was under threat of something severe (not sure what--does it matter??haha) to behave properly. He was so polite and not fidgety at all. When he need to go the bathroom, instead of moving food and tray table, he made himself very skinny and slinked under the tray to get out. No disturbance, except our laughter!
We wouldn't want "first come first boarded". Suppose you just got off work, rush over to gate and somebody with no seniority and got off of work 2 hours earlier?
I get it, really I do. I suppose it's just one of those things that you know how it works when you take a position here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pago Flyer
That system may be good for the scammers. Imagine if on a tight flight, everyone got to the airport 2 hours before the gate opened up? What do you do in that scenario? Stand the whole time at the podium waiting for the counter person to open up? Form some line? So you gotta go to the bathroom, and you tell the other non rev pax to hold the spot for you? I wonder who makes these rules. Such different ways of thinking and doing business. Such extremes. It's a wonder how laws get passed and differ from state to state. What seems like a slam dunk fair thing is suddenly the most unfairest thing of all.
Wow. Have gate agents screwed you over in the past? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by 29palms
Or....imagine on a tight flight, you've been at the airport for 2 hours and Joe Schmoe walks up at departure time and bumps you because he's been at the company six months longer. Now you've waited another 2.5 hrs for the next flight only to get bumped again by someone senior. This goes on flight after flight as non-rev after non-rev keeps you on the ground. There are positives and negatives to either system.
That's the beauty of it all. If you don't like how one company does it, you don't have to work there.
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I've had that happen many times. Seniority is good when you have it, bad when you don't. Aaaaand, my personal opinion is that Express people who think they are entitled to bump a mainline employee can go &*%# themselves. I've also ran into this a lot. Without mainline, the only places you could nonrev to would be Fargo to Bismarck et al.
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Originally Posted by Tony757
WOW! That guy sounds like me! It's ok, let it all out. I hear ya! Keep the puddle jumpers outa my face. Yea!
Sometimes you don't have a choice. You can work for a company and they suddenly revamp the travel policies. Other times, a merger forces the change. I'm going to look for another job because I don't like the way they run their travel policy? I wish I could be financially independent. Like hit the jackpot in Vegas. Then I can tell everybody to get $%##$@!!Quote:
Originally Posted by SKC
Meh, I'm not complaining (much). I think we (US) have one of the best travel policies for employees out there. Our buddy passes can be a bit pricy compared to what they used to be, but then again everything has gone up.
We pay zero (nothing) for domestic travel, 20 bucks a leg to upgrade domestically. We pay taxes to fly internationally in coach, 100 bucks to upgrade to Envoy. Parents pay a minimal charge per leg, I think 25 bucks? We're seniority based on the nonrev lists, excepting for registered guests and buddy passes. So all in all, no real complaints with our travel policies.
Ours was fee waived if you had more then 10 years of service. Not no more after 30th.
I like that our INT travel is now unlimited. One year I used up all my 18 transoceanics (oops), only to discover I could still fly the Americas without a problem (yay), so I went to Guatemala.
Glad to see that the personal, offensive posts were deleted. Many thanks to the responsible party (parties). I will reiterate that our airline treats me and my husband's children as active employees. There was much ado about nothing. Safe travels all!