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    Dispatchers are required by the FAA to spend 5 hrs per year in the cockpit observing operations since there is joint legal responsibility in flight planning. So, that alone would require dispatchers the ability to have access to the cockpit.

    I have no idea why they would remove the option for techs to sit up front.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SKC View Post
    Dispatchers are required by the FAA to spend 5 hrs per year in the cockpit observing operations since there is joint legal responsibility in flight planning. So, that alone would require dispatchers the ability to have access to the cockpit.

    I have no idea why they would remove the option for techs to sit up front.
    Thanks for that, I wasn't aware but have been confused for a long time about why they'd do that.
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    Be advised I mean no offense to you dispatchers. I'm glad they didn't take away your flight priveleges either. More power to you. I swear I'm not bitter on your part. Enjoy it while you have it. I've had the privelege before, I'm not bitter.

    We techs do know its chicken shtt why we lost ours, but that was 3 years ago. I don't care really. You see, knife cuts both ways. Flight from here to Narita one day, pilot will want to know why something is wrong or not working, he may need the services of a mechanic that happens to be riding in the back. Not that I would do this or anything, but its possible he may get something like....."Sorry, put your complaint in the log book. I am not priveleged to be in the cockpit." Put it in the log book, they'll take care of it in Narita or maybe your flight dispacher riding with you on jumpseat knows a trick or two. Good luck."

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    Interesting how these procedures vary. Here in Europe, and elsewhere I believe other than the USA, who gets a jump seat is at the captain's discretion. And a life saver for many a non-rev on full flights. A request is made to the captain if all the standbys cannot be accommodated on standard passenger seats. Some captains prefer only flight crew, or those with experience flying jump, others are quite flexible. I've flown jump both cabin and cockpit on a couple occasions. Worst was a 9 hour transatlantic flight. Not a comfortable experience but the crew were great to me, in spite of the DYKWIA gold card passenger seated opposite complainng that I was taking up his precious leg space. One exception is for flights to and from the USA and the UK where only uniformed certified plots are allowed to fly in the cockpit, at least within their airpace

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    Quote Originally Posted by frapos View Post
    Interesting how these procedures vary. Here in Europe, and elsewhere I believe other than the USA, who gets a jump seat is at the captain's discretion. And a life saver for many a non-rev on full flights. A request is made to the captain if all the standbys cannot be accommodated on standard passenger seats. Some captains prefer only flight crew, or those with experience flying jump, others are quite flexible. I've flown jump both cabin and cockpit on a couple occasions. Worst was a 9 hour transatlantic flight. Not a comfortable experience but the crew were great to me, in spite of the DYKWIA gold card passenger seated opposite complainng that I was taking up his precious leg space. One exception is for flights to and from the USA and the UK where only uniformed certified plots are allowed to fly in the cockpit, at least within their airpace

    I believe it used to be a lot of the Captain's discretion for anyone riding in the cockpit but thanks to 9/11, the game changed a little, no, a lot more. Even wives and girl friends would fly in cockpit.

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