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    Cool DL asks pax to name their price

    "If a flight is overbooked, travelers checking in at an airport kiosk or online see a screen asking them if they'd like to submit a bid for the value of a travel voucher they would take to be bumped. Customers enter a dollar amount. Delta makes clear that it accepts lower bids first."

    Delta wants your seat, takes bids for bumping *| ajc.com

    This takes the term "airline bidding war" to a whole new level.
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    What happens if their bid is below the legal minimum? That's what confuses me.

    And I thought the bill or rights or whatever y'all call it stipulated cash.... but this is some worthless voucher that probably has blackout dates etc.

    Aside from that it is a great idea, certainly makes the job easier for the gate agents
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    The current rules put the max bumping compensation at $400/$800 Aviation Consumer Protection Division. I'm thinking DL is thinking pax might bid lower *wink* I do think this will catch on. As you said, it certainly will make things easier at the gate.
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    I forget, are airlines required to give compensation to VDBs, or is it just done as an incentive to get people to volunteer? I'd imagine that if the passenger and airline come up with a mutual agreement already, there shouldn't need to be a rule interfering with it.
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    I believe DoT only mandates involuntary denied boarding compensation. Basically when you and an airline enter into an agreement for transportation between two points, the airline has the legal obligation to get you there, and if they deny you involuntarily they must pay you the compensation mandated by DoT. I would compare volunteering to settling a lawsuit out of court. If the defendant and plaintiff agree on terms and settle, the legal system has no say as to what those terms should be. If you and the airline agree on a price(which the DoT should have no say in), you give up your seat and the airline doesn't have to report an IDB to the DoT(I think they still report VDB, but not sure). I don't know if there is any year-end penalty for an airlines number of IDBs, but it is bad PR to be on the top of the list, so I would think paying a volunteer more than what they'd be obligated to pay an IDB would be better for an airline($600 should be "cheaper" than $400+ an IDB to report).

    This particular idea of DLs is great for them(as long as the negative press isn't too bad), good for some consumers, and maybe not so good for some of us. For DL, if $600 is cheaper than $400+an IDB, then $200 is WAY cheaper than $400+an IDB(I'm sure this will add up A LOT over a year). Also the gate should be a little more organized if the agent has this list available to them. For the consumer that volunteers this is a great way to get their attention. I'd assume the "bid" placed at the kiosk wouldn't be binding, and the pax could opt out of it upon hearing their reroute options. For some travelers and especially for nonrevs, I think this could be bad because as each denied boarding becomes cheaper, I think flights will be oversold by more and more. I haven't seen the DoT stats in quite a while, but I believe in DBs and/or IDBs, ASA, Comair, and Delta were the worst 3 for the past few years.

    This will save them a ton of money, but hopefully they don't go overboard w/ the oversales as a result.
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    Interesting... we just use the term "DBC"

    Seems a scam for consumers... you would get a certain amount that is mandated, but now it becomes an ebay and they could sell it off for $100
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    I'm assuming DBC = denied boarding compensation? VDB and IDB is referring to the people themselves more or less, voluntary denied boarding and involuntary denied boarding, both treated differently by the department of transportation or FAA (can't remember which, maybe both?)
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