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what does "HK" mean on the standby list? I realize they're revenue customers, but where do they come from? Is there any way to predict how many "HK" passengers are going to show up at the last minute?
I'm a relatively new (Aug 2010) DL employee, and haven't done a lot of pass travel...any help is greatly appreciated, thank you!:D
unassigned seats, misconnects, inconvenienced rev pax, OAL cancellations and rarely an employee who couldn't get standby on multiple flights to commute for same day duty.
There is no way to figure HKs until they are on board and out of our nonrev hair!! then we can fly...
welcome to DL and hope we can help if you need it.
Thanks so much for the quick reply! I'm trying to take my daughter to London next week, where she'll stay with my sister and her husband. I'm going to turn around and come home, then go back and get her the following week. Another quick question: I recall hearing someone say that nonrevs wouldn't be allowed to fly in the new lie-flat seats, yet it seems like perhaps they are (?) What's the skinny on that? I understand their reasoning, if it's true...
Do you realize it's $115 LGW and $140 LHR each time you turn around plus her same fees? You get flatbeds if avialable for your DOH/ active emp DL status etc. Loads have been monstrous. What's your daughter's age? Can she fly unaccompanied minor? It's just OAL's (otehr airline) that can't upgrade. DL is very good at providing employees with great privileges. You can have her taken care of by crew members( and they do it well on overseas flts) and your sister can arrange to meet her at the arrivals area. She can also go with her to the gate with pre-approval as UM.
yes...I'm aware of the taxes...my sister arrives in Gatwick via Sun Country from MSP about a half hour after the Delta flight. I'm more concerned about my sister figuring out how to find my daughter. I enjoy flying, and the extra $$ is worth it for this dad's peace of mind. Plus...it'll be my first time back in England since 1979...
thanks again for your prompt reply :)
I was under the impression your sister lived there. Anyway--is it workable to have your daughter come back as unaccompanied minor? You can bet she'll have a better seat than she'd get on Sun Country!! BTW--how old is she? Is she returning the same time as your sister and her spouse?
1979 is about the last time I went--or 80-something to see the beau I met in Grand Cayman...ah, the olden days...NAH I had to buy tickets then!
well...my sister's husband is from England, but they live here in Minnesota. They're going over for a month-long visit, and my daughter is joining them for the first week. My daughter is going to babysit my sister's three little kids. They're staying with friends who live near the beach in southern England. My daughter is 16 (help!), and could probably return home on her own, but if something were to happen where she couldn't get on her flight, there'd be no one at the airport with her. Plus, when I go back to get her, we'll be spending the night at a hotel near LHR, and I'm looking forward to going into London that afternoon and showing my daughter where I used to live (went to school in London for my sophomore year of college). Spendy for the travel, I know...but it's a great opportunity for my daughter to spend a week in England--free room and board in exchange for some light babysitting duties.
Now...if I could only figure out where to send my boys during that week...lol
Don't send them to Cancun!Quote:
Originally Posted by ThomasD59
I certainly hope you both get the flatbeds--if she's never done the la di da Biz Elite on DL, she'll remember it forever! Sweet!
PS--you can now check-in online and print your seat request 24 hrs in advance [if you've never done that before]. Obviously you'll burn some S2s...Good luck!
thanks...we flew to Amsterdam over Christmas break and we all got 1st class both ways. We're spoiled now...lol
Hi, I'm currently waitlisted at s3b, flight is over sold in coach, airport list is 0 with 6 HK's and 4 nonrevs ahead of me, 8 biz seats still show avail in airport list.. how is this going to play out.. do they give those seats up front to HK's or how is the priority on that.. thanks in advance.. Jürgen @ JNB hoping to get to DFW via ATL
Hello to Jurgen South Africa!! One of our favorite places in the world--and one of the hardest to nonrev....
Sadly, there are issues beyond seat count that can effect your chances. One is station mgr doesn't want to bother w/nonrevs if it means a delayed takeoff. You have to get cleared (after all the paperwork--cargo etc) then get thru security and make it to the gate.
HK's are inconvenienced OR unassigned seats for rev ticket pax, and rarely, Pos Space staff.
What date? Maybe I can give a second opinion. We travel S2 thru JNB and once didn't make it and had to connect thru Dubai.
Hi mrs767er, per advice read on this forum I stuck around after they announced twice that flight was full and no more standbys would be accepted. Suddenly they called me up. Apparently 2 girls got kicked off drunk and I was next in line. So happily was escorted and rushed by delta staff to gate and given seat 4A. Just landed in Atlanta! Glad I found this forum!
Ok, you are not the only one I have heard this from. There is an employee here in IND, who experienced this at JNB. He also said that the manager takes bribes from revenue customers for upgrades.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrs767er
My question is why does DL put up with this? It seems to be common knowledge that is happens.
We had 17 NRs and KNEW the loads from our deltanet access--they annmounced no NRs and a few people went to the desk; we all followed. Gee-we ALL got on with some noise--most up front! Even OALs
The biggest problem is the station mgr is as I mentioned re: paperwork/on-time performance. I would not doubt corruption as well, as it is rampant at JNB--baggage theft is HORRIBLE--it is part of the Johannesburg attitude. Fake terminal handlers are scamming tourists by the armfuls. It's scandalous and it effects the entire airport.
Unfortunately that is not isolated to JNB but alot of the African airports are like this, I have heard horror stories from REVENUE passengers in Lagos, Abuja etc., etc.
I have always wanted to visit South Africa but I would stay away from the nonstops to the US on DL or SAA, namely becasue I am sure this has got to be one of the toughest flights in the DL system to get on (because of heavy loads, high nonrev count, and possible weight penalty issues with the aircraft).
Other than the bad service on EK, was it easy to get on the flight from JNB to DXB on Emirates or did they put you through hoops to get on the flight.?
Regards,
Chepos
Hah, that Sun Country flight to London is so weird to me MSP-London in a 737, with a stop in Gander (just like the old days of commercial aviation). It was Stansted last year, which is great if you're taking a RyanAir flight after, but for one reason or another they decided to change it.
By the way, I'm not sure if it includes that LGW flight or not, but if you need to I think DL employees get a pretty good flat-rate on SY. At SkyWest, it's $25 (plus taxes, I'm sure) and we generally piggyback off of DL's agreements. This only works for the employee, however, no dependents.
Chepos--It was pretty easy to go to EK counter w/zed; they gave us seats w/plenty of time to gate. Pretty sure we got the last 2 in coach (or close to that) More seats avail up front (2 classes) but not for zeds. DXB didn't leave for 12-15 hrs I think, so we got day room at Arabian Courtyard--reasonable w/taxi--around $100 US--didnt use Bfast. So exhausted from EK flt we just slept. Too bad cuz it's next to a museum and near the gold and spice souks. You could really enjoy the short layover if timed right.