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    So Hawaii has hung out the "no vacancy" sign,... now I've got to worry about getting bumped by a state.

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    Well, one thing they didn't mention and only vaguely alluded to in the article is resources and the environment. At some point you have to consider the plants and animals - the flora and fauna - of the islands. You can't just keep building more highrises and more and more ocean front resorts.

    Besides, do you have any idea how much garbage all those tourists produce. Where are they going to keep putting it? And what about the fresh water? It's already stretched to the limit now. From time to time officials talk about building a desalinization plant. If tourism keeps growing they may just have to. If more people keep flocking to Hawai'i you may not be able to see any sand at all on Waikiki for all the beach towels and bathing bodies.

    Years ago, before Waikiki was developed into the concrete behemoth it is today, my father-in-law was appointed by the governor to the state tourism commission. He and fellow members were given the task to redevelop Waikiki into the tourist magnet you see today. He regretted it until the day he died.

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    And yet more news!

    Click: Maui May Be Running Out of Sand

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    So Maui is running out of sand... and here I sit less than a 30 minutes drive from tons and tons of it just lying around. Hmmmm is that opportunity I hear knocking? I think I'll load up the truck.

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    I'll put in another vote for LAS Vegas. That's the only place I've gotten stuck so far. One Sunday I was bumped off of 7 flights, gave up, got a 1-way rental car, and drove home.

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    As an HP/US employe my blackhole lists based on my personal non-rev experiences are:

    LAS--traveling to LAS on Fri and leaving LAS on Sunday can be a non-rev nightmare. I cannot tell you how many times I have gotten screwed over in LAS. I do avoid Fri/Sun travel all together.
    HNL--summertime, Xmas/New Years. Sat flights from HNL to mainland. I have never had any problems getting to HNL, its alway leaving that's a pain. The worst experience I had is I could not get out for 2 days.
    MCO/FLL--springbreak season and Christmas/New Year's. I do travel to MCO/FLL quiet frequently I have never been bumped yet, but have come very close to be bumped several times.
    PHX-SEA, PHX-ANC, PHX-YVR ---summertime when cruises are active. flight are also filled with PHX locals who want to get out of the Arizona heat. I have never flown PHX-ANC or YVR but have heard several nightmare stories espcially from passenger flying on employee passes who miss out cruises because they are too cheap to purchase a real ticket. I cannot undertand people who can fork out over $1000 on a Alaskan cruise but cannot afford a $400 flight to ANC. Makes no sense to me.
    PHX(LAS)-PHL and PHX(LAS)-CLT. --ever since the the US/HP merger its a nightmare trying to get between the east/west coast hubs.
    PHX-MSP, PHX-OMA--although I have never flown these routes. I have many co-workers who tell me their horror stories. One theory may be some passengers refuse to fly on NW.

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    I too am constantly astounded at the amount of people that try to non-rev to get to "must be at" events such as the above mentioned cruises, or weddings or whatever's. Especially during periods like spring breaks, thanksgiving etc. What is even sadder is their incredulation when you tell them "it's going to be tough getting you out" !! These days with all the webbie's and specials, you could guarantee a flight at a reasonable, if not downright outrageous, fare with some forward planning.

    Touching back on HNL again, my carrier has now included that port in our new, well it's 2 years old now, fare structure that's being rolled out worldwide and you can pick up one way fares for as little as USD190.00. Nonrevving just got a whole lot tougher all of a sudden.
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    I non rev to weddings already and never had problems. Planning to non-rev from new york to cmh for a weekemd wedding next month. plan to use award letters with continental and backup on southwest. No football games in columbus this time of year so I know I should make it through CO.

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    I mainly nonrev within europe and LHR and CDG are the worst, however, I had a "funny" experience in BKK.
    I was nonreving in the route BKK-LHR and we were around 40 nonrevers around BA desk 20 min before the take off...suddenly a thai girl appear with a paper and she read my name...only my name!! such a lucky person am I! I though. I got the worst seat in the plane and so on but....in 12 hours I was landing in LHR
    a ZED tickets lover

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    Betoindajaus... the worst seat, hmmm, now I see why you wanted to know about upgrade tricks.
    On the bright side, it does sound like you got the "getting on the flight, while everybody else is standing around" trick, down pat abracadabra!

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