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    Member bgeller's Avatar
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    Hi All,

    I found this website (seatcounter.com) which gives seat available counts for flights by class. I was hoping someone with rev system access could check a couple of random flights with the website for verification. Also a second question if someone could find out something lets a flight below for example is their 9 or 81 seat in seats economy?

    Singapore 215 777-200 SIN/06:50p PER/11:50p:
    B C D E H I J K L M N Q S T V W X Y Z
    9 4 4 9 9 0 4 9 9 9 9 9 9 0 0 9 4 9 4


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    I am not certain as to its accuracy.

    I do know that just as in many res systems, it shows how many tickets authorized to sell, but only a single digit. So, if there are 20 seats left, and 25 tickets authorized to oversell the flight by 5 tickets, it will show 9. If there are -2 seats left, and 12 tickets authorized yet, to oversell the flight by 14, it will show 9. In general, if it shows anything less than 9, its not good. But as I said, I'm not sure of its accuracy.

    And all the different letters are different fare classes. If theres 5 letters with a 9, its 9, not 45.
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    Yeah, I don't think it's very helpful. It's just showing there are 9 or more seats available in coach. It's not cumulative. Each letter is just a different fare class for coach. The letters showing 4 seats are most likely business class. If so, then there are only 4 seats available for sale in business. A 9 would indicate 9 or more. My guess is that I class showing 0 is some kind of discounted business class that may be rarely used.
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    NonRev Correspondent ColoAvs19's Avatar
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    Every single letter is a different fare class. Each has a different fare, and different rules. I know that on DL, T class is the cheapest/most restricted.

    I have no clue as to actual numbers, just making it up here. Say you have a 50 seat RJ. You might sell 20 T fares, 15 U fares, 10 B fares, and 5 Y fares. So, if there are 40 tickets left to sell, all will show 9. If there are 30 tickets left to sell, T should show 0, U should show 5, and the rest 9, ETC.

    This is by authorized tickets, not actual seats, I've not seen a single flight not authorized to oversell, but I've seen alot of fluctuation in how badly a flight is allowed to oversell. A few months ago, I was thinking about HNL. I pulled up the schedule, every single flight showed 9 in Y, I was happily suprised, I heared HNL was always pretty full. I then looked at each flight in detail, and every single flight was oversold. So, if its a big enough plane, it very well may be authorized to oversell by more than 9, thus making seatcounter kind of useless.
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    Thanks, Puddlejumper. I didn't know about Seatcounter. Presumably it links into to one of the CRS to get the info. Sure it won't tell you how many seats in total are available, but at least it'll show if the flights fully booked. Since I'm now retired from my airline, I don't have easy access to any sort of info any more, so this will be helpful. Thanks again for bringing it up.

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