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    Seems to be a deep discussion.

    Appears NW, or DL as it now? has a strict policy.

    A ZED fare, like an ID90 has monetary value. If you approach another carrier with a ZED L, where your agreement is ZED M - should the other carrier accepts the ticket, so be it.
    They cannot bill the issuing carrier for a higher value than paid, likewise with an ID90 or ID75. Without getting into the nitty gritty of interline billing with sample vs non sample it is highly unlikely an ID percentage will be declined by the issuing carrier for payment due to lack of endorsement.

    Since these fares are all subject to load, an employee will be boarded if there is an empty seat. Better to receive some revenue than none, and where a carrier provides meals - ordinarily the meal you will be given would otherwise have been wasted, or as many gate staff advise, there may not be enough meals.

    I fail to see how an employee could potentially be placing their job at risk if another airline voluntarily accepts the coupon - regardless of the agreement. One could ask the question, with say, 100 IATA carriers that a carrier could possibly have an agreement with, are they expected to know the agreement for each carrier in advance of approaching the other airline?

    I was recently declined by BA at VIE returning from a New Year long weekend. My ZED with OS was a ZED L and upon checking, declined to accept the ticket since our agreement is a ZED M.
    However, they did inform me that they were looking for denied boardings, had that situation not arisen, the Duty Manager may have permitted me to use the OS ticket.
    I must admit, it's the first time another carrier has not accepted a ZED for a parallel routing, so begs the question on whether the DB situation had not arisen, would the DM have accepted me with the knowledge
    I was in possession of a slightly lower fare ....


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    One more question related to ZED. Is there a way to see the loads on other airlines? I trying to formulate some back up plans, but I'm not sure it is even worth trying to do this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbear View Post
    One more question related to ZED. Is there a way to see the loads on other airlines? I trying to formulate some back up plans, but I'm not sure it is even worth trying to do this.
    There are several ways, many of which have already been posted on these forums.
    If you have access to your own airlines' CRS, an availability display will give a little insight. If you zero's, that's a good indication it's full. Another way is to visit the airlines' website and attempt to purchase
    seats, generally the maximum you can purchase without it becoming a group reservations is 9. If it allows you 9 seats, that's a good indication it's open.
    Of course, these will only give you a rough idea. You will have no insight into the other airlines' over booking profile for a particular flight - A flight from A - B may already be sold to capacity, but the airline has permitted sales beyond that level.

    The best way is to contact the airline directly or place a request here under the forum heading Loads.

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    There are still two airlines selling seats and I'm looking at Wed/Thurs flights, but it is Holy Week so I was mostly wondering if there was a way to see the # of non-revs. We don't fly there (isn't that always the way it works) so I'm stuck on that.

    Quote Originally Posted by italgreco View Post
    The best way is to contact the airline directly or place a request here under the forum heading Loads.
    I thought about that, but was hoping there was an option that I didn't need to pester folks. Thank you for the input, I'll make a post in there.

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