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United Airlines' cuts at Cleveland will be a little bigger than first announced, The Plain Dealer of Cleveland reports.
The carrier announced in February that it would drop Cleveland as a hub, reducing its schedule there from 199 "peak day" departures to just 72 by summer. United also said it would it would slash the number of nonstop routes it flies from Cleveland to 20, down from 59.
Now, United's number of nonstop routes Cleveland will drop by two more
I'm kind of spread on this one. I don't think they'll bounce back past their peak. MEM, CLE, MKE, PIT - all the small-ish midwestern (give or take) hubs are dying with consolidations and mergers across the industry. That said, CLE is a pretty big area relatively speaking. I can definitely see other airlines picking up on service from their own hubs. But not enough to fully bounce back. I guess I can see CLE trying to bring back hub service, but who would take it? It's really the regional flights that are going. Sure, Southwest or Frontier would have a great canvas to work with, but that regional concourse can't take those 737/A320s. The others, with regional service? Not seeing that happening anytime soon. AA and US are busy with their merger, DL already has CVG and DTW, and UA... well, that's obvious.
Crap, now I'm wishing I changed my vote.
I don't think there is much profit to make in Cleveland just based on the past 10 years CO worked there at a loss. It was not profitable. Why? I really don't know. Geographically speaking, there are better hubs such as EWR, ORD. I see NRT to DTW/ORD/IAH but none to CLE.
The handwriting has been on the wall for awhile.
Not sure what "vote" means but CVG and DTW have very little in common. MEM should have been dimmed a long time ago before they devastated CVG.Quote:
Originally Posted by spongebue
I'm talking about the poll on top of the thread. And my comparison with CVG and DTW wasn't really a comparison as much as it was an attempt to point out the geography. CLE is 220 miles to CVG, less than 100 to DTW. Yes, you can serve the markets that need a nonstop better, but so many flights these days have connections. In those cases, having another hub wouldn't be very helpful (and that's part of the reason MEM went under, surrounded by ATL and CVG post-merger)Quote:
Originally Posted by mrs767er
haha--didn't even see the poll! I just went directly to your last comment.
CVG was decimated a long time before MEM--even Comair has been gone for a yr and a half. Concourse C (Comair) closed years before that. Sad part was the millions spent putting decent vendors in there--captive audience w/bus service from A/B. Empty now. It took them long enough to move OALs to A. There are 400 people working in the first terminal (original one--when I was a little girl) mostly admin. Some VPs have more than one assistant. No wonder "gate" costs are so high--too many people with not enough collective brains nor common sense. I flew on a Saturday and most vendors in DL terminal were closed--even restaurants. I don't blame them...
I sure miss that old CVG! Wolfgang Pucks made to order breakfast under $10..mmmm goodQuote:
Originally Posted by mrs767er
It's still open (except Sat and whenever it isn't)Quote:
Originally Posted by ddagencylv
CVG | Sky Shop
Before SkyClub, I used to have a glass of wine there--bartender thought he was Elvis reincarnated.