I have not checked or used Flightstats but it could be possible that they only show 9 seats whenever there are more than 9 seats available.
Not a good indicator if that is what they do.
Tony
I have not checked or used Flightstats but it could be possible that they only show 9 seats whenever there are more than 9 seats available.
Not a good indicator if that is what they do.
Tony
Flightstats use Sabre as their source data. (note, this excludes all AA flights). There is also an issue that for several airlines their classification of 'coach' vs 'business' cabins is not correct, hence they sometimes show zero coach when there is availability and vice versa.
idDeals.com does a better job of forecasting actual loads and takes the hassle out of trying to decipher or guess. It does require a membership fee, but worth it especially for the hotel discounts![]()
Try www.NonRevCheckin.com They take into consideration overselling and cancellations. You can also sign up for update alerts to be sent automatically to your phone or email to keep you updated to load changes.
Does anyone know where nonrevcheckin.com gets there laod information from? Is it the same Sabre system that flightstats.com gets the info from? If so, what is the point of joining? I see on the samples, nonrevcheckin only shows availability as "good" or "poor" or a few other opinionated methodologies. Are there any websites out there that have true #'s?
Fairly certain the poster of this message is the same person (Brad Deines) who owns and runs the nonrevcheckin site, so this is basically free advertsiting.
To oswegobag's question "Are there any websites out there than have true #'s?" I'd say definitely not. True availability information is well guarded by the airlines, for competitive reasons. Some airlines, though, publish availability information (not details) to OAL employees through their flight listing tools but in different ways. The FlyZED tool displays smiley faces based on availability information sent through Amadeus (e.g., 4's, 7's, or 9's). The BA and AF tools are homemade so they, like the ID90 flight listing tool used currently by AA, CO, F9, KL, apply a formula specific to their carrier, using true seat counts (not 4's, 7's, 9's) to display level of availability, so the smiley's or green/red lights you see there are much more accurate.
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