Thread: Delta/NW Union, Yay or Nay?

Originally Posted by lov2travel

How many remembered Eastern?

I remember Eastern, and I remember Frank Lorenzo too.

Welcome aboard lov2Travel, the buffet is straight ahead. *wink*

The Union is being gagged by management - lots of petty "If you don't ask, they can't tell" going on. If you have a Shop Steward about and wonder why you haven't heard anything from them, ASK.

To be honest, I was among those who though that the Union didn't give a damn anymore as they were barely 'present' until I asked one of my friends WTF was going on...

Vote which ever way your heart tells you, but by god, VOTE INFORMED.

Personally, the fact that the Union is actively being silenced and squished down scares the hell out of me, and makes me wonder what would happen if they were completely taken away....

I'll say it outright - Delta may NOT have needed a Union in the past, but those days are long gone and we need as many people watching out for each other as we can get - WE are strong together.

Originally Posted by DeltaFlyer

It is so much easier to vote IN a union then it is to vote one OUT...so now is the time to vote OUT the unions...this is the airline industry and there will always be a union rep somewhere with their noses all over the place wanting to represent us so if things dont go the way the majority likes, there is the opportuntiy to get back into the union...

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I agree with DeltaFlyer.
It may seem strange at first to not have union rep to fight your battles (if you should need to fight one).
However, I have had to use Delta's famous or infamous "Open Door" policy twice since the WA/DL merger about issues that pertained only to me, not to the work group at large. It actually works. I have known quite a few others, who had more egregious isssues than mine, that have also used this venue to speak with senior management.

In the last 15 years I have had many friends leave Delta for greener pastures only to lament how much they miss working for Delta.
Even with the mergers, paycuts, furloughs, new management, old management, new rules, old rules, they would come back.
I can't explain why that is but I do know this.
Give it a try without a union - you might be surprised to find out that you will still have a voice
* Your own! *

You are wise to get as many opinions pro and con that you can, however, the ultimate decision is still yours to make. Good Luck!

Having worked in both, I am pro union.

Most, if not all States are "at-will" employment, meaning a company can terminate you at will and without reason.
I do not like that hanging over me at all...

Yup. A TA is reached and when its all signed and done, up to 6k signing bonus for a two year contract plus retroactive pay going back over a year amounting to up to 12k gran total. FOR EACH TEAMSTER TECHNICIAN. More floating holidays, increase in pay, standardized union work rules and holidays, vacations, ect... Of course, how much you receive is based on factors such as time with company at various levels, of which details I will not discuss here, but you say what you want about a union. When the votes get ratified, I'll think about your responses here against uions as I drive all the way to the bank. Did your non-unionized work force in all your years of loyal service ever receive a ten grand check in their hand just for doing the same job that they did yesterday? We have a great culture at work, but we don't tolerate management treading on us. We will pay the union dues to see that this stays that way.

DO you DELTA people that post here that vote against having a union realize that being a union member is GOOD ENOUGH FOR YOUR PILOTS? And ALPA is the strongest union around. They take good care of their pilots. NWA employee? I take it you were never in a union were you? And if you were in the union at NWA, as a tech with AMFA you were definately in the brunt end of a bad contract/managment situation. Sorry about that one. I never said the union was great and that you always hit the lotto with a union contract. I did say, however, if you read between the lines, YOU ARE A FOOL IF YOU DON'T UNIONIZE IN THE AIRLINE INDUSTRY! (Being stuck on stupid about unions in general is your problem.) I bet you the pilots at Delta have a union don't they? Sure they do. You'll never see a pilot in the airline working without a contract. Your CEO's work on contracts too. Do you expect pilots and FA's to be the only work groups that rate having a union? You don't feel rampers, technicians, gate agents have the right to collective bargaining? FOOLISH THINKING. The smartest groups organize. The other work groups get scared off easily by their own fellow co-workers misinformed against being union.