Ok, you guys are really scaring me. So naive I guess when I thought this was a good idea...! Only saving grace is one of my best friends here travels all the time with her daughter as her parents live on the big island and she makes the trip several Xs a year, so I have her to 'help guide me back'. Granted that's 2 instead of 4 people...

I'm Ok with splitting up , this needs to go well so my DH will travel with kiddos again.

Am I crazy to think 2 listed on the OGG return to LA with 20+ is good? Does it change that much? I'm beginning to think to avoid HNL on the return as much as possible. I'm fine with landing anywhere on the mainland too. Also, why does the back page show so many more seats than the front on the HNL flights? Are they weight restricted?

Croatia was beyond fabulous. I have a great itinerary if anyone ever wants it. The hardest part was the non rev/ZED ticketing folks could not figure out the tickets on Croatia Air (tried for almost 2 hours). Very nerve-wracking. The int'l desk on concourse E did them in 5 minutes. We would have had to re do our arrival cities at the last minute if they couldn't get them issued and go to Heaththrow instead of CDG and had to make a decision. We returned via Dubrovnik through Madrid on Iberia and caught the DL flight out instead of Split/Amsterdam and it worked well.