Need Brazil Visa as a transit passenger-only if non-rev? What about dependents?

**RubyRedRider** · 09-Jul-2011, 08:09 PM

Hope someone can answer this question- I'm taking the family to S. Africa, flying into JNB.
Most routes direct from the US & via Europe are over-sold but hard to tell on Zed site.
GRU is pretty open, but from what I'm reading we would need visas?
Is this true? Even for transit-only?
Any help is appreciated!

This trip came up fast, so we don't have time to hop down to LAX to get visas.
And if anyone has any other routing recommends, please suggest away.

Travel begins at SEA-TAC, onward to either ATL (then non-stop to JNB ) or EWR on to various possible transfers, then JNB.
I've looked at LHR, FRA, CDG & ORY, AMS and even TLV or NBO!
Obviously looking to transfer to KLM or Delta if we can't get on SAA either.
Any ideas?

**chepos** · 10-Jul-2011, 01:10 AM

I am pretty sure you would need a visa as you have to literaaly enter brazil as you have to go to the SAA ticket counter to check in if using a ZED. Something similar hapened to me in Chile, were you dont need a Visa but you need to pay a pesky entry fee ($140 back in 09). I flew in on LAN from EZE to SCL and was just tranfering on to AA and needed to check in at the ticket counter. They made me "enter the country: pay the entry fee eventhough I was not technically leaving the airport . This is all red tape bureacracy which is pretty common in Latin America "I know since I originate from this part of the world". Anyways I am pretty sure Brazil requires the Visa even if you are just transisiting. However, I would say your best bet is to contact the Brasilain Embassy via telephone.
keep in mind SAA also flies to EZE (from JNB, no Visa needed for Americans traveling into Argentina but you need to pay an expensive entry fee for each pax in the party.
Other options worth pondering can be HKG -JNB (which both saa and CX operate).

Regards,

Chepos

**mrs767er** · 10-Jul-2011, 08:07 AM

please check with the Brasilian Consulate. From what I know the first point is that you must have visa to enter Brasil. That would likely mean you can't even board AC to GRU or GIG without it. I just saw their new rules to obtain one--sheesh!

Important that you have TWO open pages in passports for SA arrival at JNB. (well, it's really an entry/exit card you complete on flight)

We routed back from JNB (our Dl flights were packed) thru Dubai on Emirates (horrible service/seats BTW)
Good luck getting to JNB--it's a tough one (even w/24 yrs seniority and S2)
South Africa is one of our favorite destinations!

**RubyRedRider** · 11-Jul-2011, 12:10 PM

Can anyone else confirm the Brazil issue?
I'm getting info that non-rev pax flying standby do NOT need visas if only at the airport and layover is under 7 hrs.

Thanks for the EZE idea. Loads look good IAH-EZE-JNB and only needing to change to SAA in EZE.
May give that route a shot.
Anymore ideas? Thx!

**mrs767er** · 11-Jul-2011, 01:37 PM

Are you checking bags? You may be forced to clear immigration at EZE and pay (as Chepos mentioned the $140 arrival fee/px) then recheck at SA counter.
Don't you have an agency for the airline you can call to confirm about transit thru Brasil? We use CIBT and they answer all my q's when I have call them.
You pass bureau should have Timeatic (sp?) access for your carrier's requirements to board int he US for Brasil.

**29palms** · 11-Jul-2011, 11:38 PM

I really can't help. I had to get a visa when I went to Argentina around 8 years ago via Brazil, which was good for 5 years, and we spent 2 nights in SAO PAULO on the way back, but we had intended to do this before we went. Don't know nuthin as far as layovers. Worse case scenario, my guess is, unless it has changed since, would be that IF you had to fork out some bucks for a visa, you best take advantage and see some of the country to make it worth your while. Visas cost me 200 bucks for two of us, (me and wife) but that was then, don't know about the now. Good luck.

**mrs767er** · 12-Jul-2011, 07:28 AM

Brasilian visas have to be done in person/family member (or by agency rep). They are $140 now and must be gotten in advance of travel w/appt.

**BRITSKI99** · 12-Jul-2011, 08:34 AM

Have you thought of going the other way round .. i.e. via HKG. The fare might be greater but I don't think you need a visa for HKG even on a US passport.

**mrs767er** · 12-Jul-2011, 10:11 AM

OP is SEA--it sure would make sense if he has nonstop to HKG. Not sure how many options he'd have for nonrev to JNB from there, tho.

**29palms** · 12-Jul-2011, 11:22 AM

What a frikin rip off. 140 bucks?

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