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    Quote Originally Posted by BowlerMom View Post
    Thanks for the explanation but I think you are missing my point. I understood that you were "righting your wrong" but you did it at the expense of your moderating staff.

    I believe that you have inadvertently opened the door for others to disrespect your moderators. Once there is rudeness, in whatever form, to a moderator you no longer have control over the direction of the board. A benchmark has now been created for others to look to since apparently the only person who has been reprimanded was a member of your staff, not the person who was discourteous in the first place.

    I think your responsibility was to back the play of your moderating staff which you didn't do.
    Well, to all involved I apologize for the drama. Bowler, thanks for the info. Admin, thanks for reopening the thread so that I could get that info. However, there is too much drama going on. I think the best thing to do for everyone's sake is to close the thread again. Idk. Up to you. But I'm gonna go elsewhere with future questions. Thanks again and happy flying to everyone.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BowlerMom View Post
    Thanks for the explanation but I think you are missing my point. I understood that you were "righting your wrong" but you did it at the expense of your moderating staff.

    I believe that you have inadvertently opened the door for others to disrespect your moderators. Once there is rudeness, in whatever form, to a moderator you no longer have control over the direction of the board. A benchmark has now been created for others to look to since apparently the only person who has been reprimanded was a member of your staff, not the person who was discourteous in the first place.

    I think your responsibility was to back the play of your moderating staff which you didn't do.
    I didn't miss your point. I happen to disagree with most of your conclusions, but I'm declining to comment on it in a public forum as it's nobody's business but mine and the moderators.

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    Heh. Not closing the thread. Nobody was "reprimanded" either.

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    I hope you stick around HBR--we have lots of good stuff to share!
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    I think that most drama has faded away, and is continuing to do so. I'm more concerned about what happens in the future than a bump in the road a mile back. No need to stop, back up, examine the bump, and then move forward again. Oh, and for what it's worth... Newton's 4th law states that if you have a forum that allows for unregistered people to post, people will eventually do it.

    Anyway, to answer your question, most carriers use ZEDs, though a few use ID90s or maybe ID95s. There is no single carrier where you can get a "ZED or ID90..." they'll either go with one or the other. But yes, NZ requires a year of seniority, while every other airline I remember require 6 months. If you have access to SHARES, you can also enter GG PASS OA, with OA being the code for the other airline (ie, GG PASS NZ). If you don't, it's generally pretty much identical to what's on that other site I mentioned.

    Other airline I mentioned... you mean EK? That's Emirates.

    It may be a little complicated sounding at first, but once you do it once or twice it's pretty easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spongebue View Post
    I think that most drama has faded away, and is continuing to do so. I'm more concerned about what happens in the future than a bump in the road a mile back. No need to stop, back up, examine the bump, and then move forward again. Oh, and for what it's worth... Newton's 4th law states that if you have a forum that allows for unregistered people to post, people will eventually do it.

    Anyway, to answer your question, most carriers use ZEDs, though a few use ID90s or maybe ID95s. There is no single carrier where you can get a "ZED or ID90..." they'll either go with one or the other. But yes, NZ requires a year of seniority, while every other airline I remember require 6 months. If you have access to SHARES, you can also enter GG PASS OA, with OA being the code for the other airline (ie, GG PASS NZ). If you don't, it's generally pretty much identical to what's on that other site I mentioned.

    Other airline I mentioned... you mean EK? That's Emirates.

    It may be a little complicated sounding at first, but once you do it once or twice it's pretty easy.
    Ok wow. That kinda sucks. HAHA. I will probably be getting access to these intranet log-ins and whatnot in about a week or two but I'll ask anyway. What about HA? I know they have just started a Non Stop to Sydney. What is their required "time in service"? And how about JetStar?
    Thank you very much for all this great information! Your help is greatly appreciated.

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    HBR--take a close look at your company nonrev page--I'm almost surprised how much stuff is on ours. You may have to do a few links, but there must be a page that shows the terms for each airline agreement. Stick around--most of us are harmless. LCC's [like Jetstar] don't typically show on any agreements. Once you get access, spend a little time looking at those zed/ID carriers and you'll get a ton of info crammed into your brain. Good luck retaining most of it!
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    Hmmm, not seeing anything for Jetstar. Hawaiian requires 6 months (I'd just assume that all airlines do at this point) but it does look like they have ZED Lows for all passengers in all cabins, including first, which is really nice.

    You do know that UA flies to Australia, right? I know the loads can be bad, but even my old supervisor got F on a SYD-SFO flight one time, and she was flying at United Express priority!
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    Ok, found one agreement that breaks the mold. After addiegirl's thread about Cape Air, I saw that they require a $25 flat service charge each way, and only need 3 months of service. Probably not what you're looking for, but hey... it exists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spongebue View Post
    Hmmm, not seeing anything for Jetstar. Hawaiian requires 6 months (I'd just assume that all airlines do at this point) but it does look like they have ZED Lows for all passengers in all cabins, including first, which is really nice.

    You do know that UA flies to Australia, right? I know the loads can be bad, but even my old supervisor got F on a SYD-SFO flight one time, and she was flying at United Express priority!
    Ahh. Wow that does seem good and alright. I suppose it makes sense that you have to put in a bit of time. We are getting some amazing benefits after all. And yeah, I know UA flies to Australia... Just looking at all my options thank you so much for all the great information! Reall appreciate it! And if anything else comes up, don't hesitate to let me know thanks again!

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