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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mayor @ Jan 4 2009, 12:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    Did get a reply back from the Board Council and they said it has been passed on for review. Said they would do a follow up next week.[/b]
    It would be so awesome if DL would do this! I have a feeling that it will slide through the cracks though....


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    Don&#39;t get too excited ... yet. My understanding is that the lounges are intended for use by AA employees/families only. Opening them up to OAL will create complications which increase costs. As the lounges are intended to operate at very low- (if not no-) cost to AA, AA is likely to board them up if they get to be too costly to manage.

    I&#39;m awaiting confirmation.

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    Hmmm (it&#39;s always in the fine print) I guess we will see.
    You know these lounges could clear up a lot of "hovering" at the gate. Not to mention helping to eliminate the frantic "I didn&#39;t get on the plane, what do I do now?" phone call.
    Me, I&#39;m just looking forward to a comfortable chair.
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Migflanker @ Jan 7 2009, 06:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    Hmmm (it&#39;s always in the fine print) I guess we will see.
    You know these lounges could clear up a lot of "hovering" at the gate. Not to mention helping to eliminate the frantic "I didn&#39;t get on the plane, what do I do now?" phone call.
    Me, I&#39;m just looking forward to a comfortable chair. [/b]
    I&#39;m looking forward to trying out what BA has done in Terminal 5 at LHR later this month. The self check in tells you if you are onloaded or not. If you are not it gives you a print out and will send you a text msg if you are onloaded, or they send you into a room with TV screens. They will then tell you if you are onloaded and you go to bag drop, or you re-list on their machines.

    Not so much a lounge... but i love the automation idea, definately no hovering!
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AA ZED @ Jan 6 2009, 11:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    Don&#39;t get too excited ... yet. My understanding is that the lounges are intended for use by AA employees/families only. Opening them up to OAL will create complications which increase costs. As the lounges are intended to operate at very low- (if not no-) cost to AA, AA is likely to board them up if they get to be too costly to manage.

    I&#39;m awaiting confirmation.[/b]


    Well, here&#39;s what it said in the article..................

    "Although all the guidelines of the lounges have not been worked out, per Mr. Del Valle, NRSA is NRSA - OA employees flying on AA are welcome in the lounges."




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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mayor @ Jan 7 2009, 04:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    Well, here&#39;s what it said in the article..................

    "Although all the guidelines of the lounges have not been worked out, per Mr. Del Valle, NRSA is NRSA - OA employees flying on AA are welcome in the lounges."[/b]
    I noticed that Mig posted that but not sure where it came from. I&#39;ve not seen any article that referenced OA employees. I&#39;ve confirmed with each of the stations involved and with head office that the lounges are intended for AA staff/families only. Possibly, if they find that the lounges can run themselves and have space to accept more NRSA travelers, they could reconsider and allow OAL. From what I understand there will be someone validating eligibility, probably randomly.

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nick @ Jan 7 2009, 09:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    I&#39;m looking forward to trying out what BA has done in Terminal 5 at LHR later this month. The self check in tells you if you are onloaded or not. If you are not it gives you a print out and will send you a text msg if you are onloaded, or they send you into a room with TV screens. They will then tell you if you are onloaded and you go to bag drop, or you re-list on their machines.

    Not so much a lounge... but i love the automation idea, definately no hovering![/b]

    Apparently the staff "waiting area" at T5 is right next door to the prayer room. Intentional?

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    I tried the new BA system on T5 two months ago..... fantastic....
    I didnt even notice I was a non rev pax.

    I listed on the flight to CPT at their web site about a week before my intented flight date.
    I showed up at the airport about 2,5 hours before...
    Right at the airport you will see plenty of easy check-in machines, which will check you in. It will ask you some questions and then it will print out a standby boarding pass, with your priority (the system knows if the employee is a one world employee or not, and assing different priorities for each case), and record locator reference.

    Then, we went to the room for clearing standby&#39;s... It is exactly at the left hand of the check-in hall... We asked, and an agent told us.
    As we took a look, we saw that there are many seats that people use to rest before the their flights get resolved. Also there are a couple of computer to list yourself if you have arrived at the airport without a listing. Remember that there is no other way of listing but online, and also there it will be no one at the room to help people and give loads... There are only some families and people waiting for a seat.
    It is also clearly explained that it is unnecesary to wait there long time before, as the flight information is only exposed just one hour before departure. So we went to have a sandwich right next to the room, at the Cafe Nero.

    If you have listed properly and put your mobile number at the reservation, they text you a message telling your status onboard, but I will explain it later.

    Right before an hour for the departure, we approached at the room, and we sat. As we only had hand luggage, we had it on us, but if someone has to check any suitcase, you have to tag it at any bag drop even before you know if you are accepted on the flight, and then keep the luggage with you waiting for the final result.
    at the room there where many LCD tv on a wall, and you have to look for your flight. Then you will see your record locator number before the title of your flight, and it shows an status, for example: WAITING SEAT... or ACCEPTED, or NOT ACCEPTED BUT RESILTED ON THE NEXT FLIGHT. there are some pannels where BA explains what to do at any status, so do not panic...
    As they started accepting people, passengers were leaving the room and then they went the famous BLUE OR RED DESK, which are just at the other side of the corridor when you get out of the room. Two meters of distance!!
    So lets just see the possibilities:
    1.- you have been accepted: the screen will say ACCEPTED GO TO BLUE DESK... so you cross the corridor, and there are like two check-in possitions with agents that will check your ZED/ID ticket, and will handle you boarding passes with seats. Then you ask where to leave your suitcases that you tagged before.
    2.- NOT ACCEPTED, RELISTED ON THE NEXT FLIGHT: BA automaticaly relist you on the next flight (if any) for the same destination... you dont even have to do anything... just wait for the next flight...
    3.- NOT ACCEPTED, GO TO THE RED DEST: I suppose it means that you have not been accepted, and they want to ask you something... like if you want to be relisted for other destination, or if you want to split your party, or something like that.

    One second after the screen said to us that we were accepted, my Spanish mobile phone received an SMS, saying: BA ACCEPTED ON THE FLIGHT, PLEASE CONTACT THE BLUE DESK OR ANY FAST BAG DROP... I didnt know that it even worked for International mobile numbers, but it did work.

    Then you have to run to your gate, because it is usually far, and you have to first go to check your passport to any of PASSPORT AND DOCUMENT CONTROL AGENT at the check-in areas.................., then go through Security........... then we took a train to our gate, and then board....

    BA was sooo nice that gave us premium economy, which is a quieter cabin with a little wider seats, and nice catering.... lovely experience if you see what I paid for the zed...

    My partner was amazed. So was I.

    I hope it helps, and sorry about my English.

    J.

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    Although all the guidelines of the lounges have not been worked out, per Mr. Del Valle, NRSA is NRSA - OA employees flying on AA are welcome in the lounges.
    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AA ZED @ Jan 7 2009, 08:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    I noticed that Mig posted that but not sure where it came from.[/b]
    Hi AA ZED, I got the info from a girl at WE FLY AA . She was "reasonably sure" that OA employees were welcome in the lounges. However, she did mention that everything hadn&#39;t been "completely" worked out. I suppose Nick&#39;s best option is to cross his fingers, knock on the door and see what happens.

    SpainFlyer thanks for the great info. The last time I was in LHR, the computer system was down, lines were snaking around the terminal, progress was slow, tempers and temperatures were high, it was pouring rain outside, the guy behind me kept poking me in the leg with his umbrella and an agent was on a chair yelling for AA passengers for flight XXX to come this way....we did, right into another line.
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Migflanker @ Jan 8 2009, 12:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    Hi AA ZED, I got the info from a girl at WE FLY AA . She was "reasonably sure" that OA employees were welcome in the lounges. However, she did mention that everything hadn&#39;t been "completely" worked out. I suppose Nick&#39;s best option is to cross his fingers, knock on the door and see what happens. [/b]
    Haha have you seen the show Thank God You&#39;re Here? Who knows what will greet me on the other side
    I am interested in the mechanics of it all really. It was certainly a topic of water cooler discussion when I went and visited our ticketing officer - we wished we could have the same in HKG. Well we can&#39;t use our own lounge but we get a discount at the 3rd party lounge, i think around $15-20USD to use it so I can&#39;t really complain - it sure beats the $50USD to pay in to an AA lounge (I must say i was tempted when I had a 10hr layover at LAX!!). But yeah, I assume they could only be self-managed as they aren&#39;t going to employ someone to stand there, and they can&#39;t really make you swipe your AA ID as your family wouldn&#39;t have one? So in that respect I think there are a lot of details to be worked through - but interested to hear how it all works out.
    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Migflanker @ Jan 8 2009, 12:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>
    SpainFlyer thanks for the great info. The last time I was in LHR, the computer system was down, lines were snaking around the terminal, progress was slow, tempers and temperatures were high, it was pouring rain outside, the guy behind me kept poking me in the leg with his umbrella and an agent was on a chair yelling for AA passengers for flight XXX to come this way....we did, right into another line.[/b]
    Yes thanks also SpainFlyer, was an informative post. My flight to CAI is wide open, so hopefully I may make it a bit closer up the front like you did Considering i&#39;ll have gone MEL-HKG-LHR and arrive at 0500, tube to my friends house then come back to LHR to leave at 1700, I think i&#39;d fall alseep no matter what sort of seat i&#39;m in
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